GutlessSupreme Posted July 11, 2005 Report Share Posted July 11, 2005 the block didn't cause ALL that exterior damage.. I used a crowbar to pull the coolant pipe and starter solenoid back a bit so I could see in the hole better. But half of the solenoid did get pretty fuck up from block shrapnel. Almost fucking burnt the car down too, because of the live wire on the starter... briefly burnt off some fluids on one of the turbo's oil lines before going out. It wasn't looking too good though. needless to say next thing I did was tear my way to the battery to get the fucking cable off. One thing I forgot was pics of the pieces I fished out of the pan with one of those extendable magnets.. I'll try for tomorrow with those pics. Few large chunks of block, a completely intact piston pin, few sections of piston rings and other stuff came out.. edit: new pics first sight head looked dirty, but undamaged top of the pinston literally just came off ingenious umbrella idea on 93* day piece of bent rod I was able to pull out of the pan with my hand I decided I was going to try to get whatever was left of the piston out if I could. I didn't want to have to wait until I pulled the pan. Broke out a screwdriver and hammer and gave the piston a little whack while it was in the block and froze instantly. Instead of a nice metallic clank, it gave off a VERY thin, hollow sounding *whoomp*. I finally managed to get it out because the crack finally gave in.. here's why it made that sound: What was left of the rod on the crankshaft. Took a nice bite out of the corner of the crank there too.. very dirty.. but definetly rebuildable head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitaloutsider Posted July 11, 2005 Report Share Posted July 11, 2005 :shock: Man, that's fucked up.. I'm sorry.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TurboSedan Posted July 11, 2005 Report Share Posted July 11, 2005 wow that's bad!! so what are your plans for the car from here on out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pontiac6ksteawd Posted July 11, 2005 Report Share Posted July 11, 2005 i can help you get a new TGP engine. I know a guy in virginia that has 2 TGP's that he is going to part out as he doesnt have the time to rebuild them. One has a good motor, and a bad turbo. The other has a bad motor, and a good turbo. Both have body and interior issues. But considering both motors are in better shape then whats left of yours :? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GutlessSupreme Posted July 11, 2005 Author Report Share Posted July 11, 2005 Quite frankly guys I'm ready to call it quits on this particular car. If the rest of the car was in better shape I'd say fuck it and just get a new motor, but I hardly even began redoing the rest of the car. I don't think it's worth the effort anymore. The way it looks, I'll probably part it, sell the Cutlass, earn some cash, and buy a GOOD condition TGP. I'd really really hate to part this car, but quite frankly I can't afford to try and sell it whole, because I probably couldn't come close to part earnings. Weird how things work out like that. Trust me though. I think this car's seen it's final day. It's had a long, hard life. A minimum of 5-6 owners, salvage titled @ ~74k miles, rebuilt, another accident @ ~138k miles, suicide @ 140k, it's been a recovered theft, had a really shitty repaint, etc. I just wish I could've seen it in it's prime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkness Posted July 11, 2005 Report Share Posted July 11, 2005 Holy crap! :shock: That sucks. I feel for ya. I had the same thing happen to my '75 Firebird. Gives you that gut-wrenching feeling. Take a little time and figure out what you want to do with it. Don't be too quick and do something you might regret later. On the other hand, let us know if you decide to part it out... the vulture in me is already making a wish list Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy Posted July 11, 2005 Report Share Posted July 11, 2005 that sucks... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveFromColorado Posted July 11, 2005 Report Share Posted July 11, 2005 wow dude, that really sucks - I've put a few rods through a few blocks in my time, but never in anything I actually cared about. --Dave. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J Posted July 11, 2005 Report Share Posted July 11, 2005 thats shitty, i know where you can get a low milage block as well, let me know. But if not hit me up on pm, like i said in the first thread i'm interested in some parts. later Jay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GnatGoSplat Posted July 11, 2005 Report Share Posted July 11, 2005 That sucks man. You could always drop a couple bucks on a running NA 3.1 and put it in the car just so it's drivable. Then put the turbo stuff on when you get the Cutlass sold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White93z34 Posted July 11, 2005 Report Share Posted July 11, 2005 wellll knowing me, i'm the stuborn type. and i say you should fix it up, get another LG5 and swap it in, good time to do your 5 speed swap while your at it. then again, i'm also the nut thats restoreing a z34, that i wrinkled the roof of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Euro Posted July 11, 2005 Report Share Posted July 11, 2005 wow dude thats horrible!! that car led a hard life hope all goes well with whatever you're gonna do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GP1138 Posted July 11, 2005 Report Share Posted July 11, 2005 Man, I was hoping this wasn't gonna happen. Good luck with whatever you decide to do next... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White93z34 Posted July 11, 2005 Report Share Posted July 11, 2005 you can still make it see its prime Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robby1870 Posted July 11, 2005 Report Share Posted July 11, 2005 wow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pontiac6ksteawd Posted July 11, 2005 Report Share Posted July 11, 2005 Im with some of the other guys on this, I would rebuild it. Only because I know where the parts are to fix it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GutlessSupreme Posted July 11, 2005 Author Report Share Posted July 11, 2005 as promised... pics of the pieces... top end tear down may start today.. I probably won't pull the pan for a while just because it's such a pain in the ass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GP1138 Posted July 11, 2005 Report Share Posted July 11, 2005 :bawl: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White93z34 Posted July 11, 2005 Report Share Posted July 11, 2005 that had to make one helluva noise.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveFromColorado Posted July 11, 2005 Report Share Posted July 11, 2005 damn! it looks like you lost a piston before you lost the rod and sent it into the block (ie: the piston pin sitting there) wow, just goes to show there can be little problems where you'd never expect to see 'em. --Dave. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GutlessSupreme Posted July 11, 2005 Author Report Share Posted July 11, 2005 Think of a gunshot about 2 feet in front of you followed by some burbling noises, slow decceleration and a sudden trail of oil following you down the road, followed by some explitives that were yelled about as loud as the gunshot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gp90se Posted July 12, 2005 Report Share Posted July 12, 2005 put the starter back in, little gumout in the intake and turn the key, ill betcha it still fires up lol. damn shame but that car didnt wanna be driven. First time gutlass came to get the car outta my yard, it wouldnt start. Took me damn near 3 hours to replace the injectors, clean the sensors and get it 2 light up so he could drive it home. best of luck on whatever ya deciede Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
94CutlassSLCoupe Posted July 12, 2005 Report Share Posted July 12, 2005 wow...that really sucks...I would find it hard to throw away all that hard work that you have done. Here's my story: I have a 1970 Plymouth Duster...bought it in 2000 when i was 14 :shock: ...well I spent 2 years getting the thing safe for the road and making it a decent/fun car to drive, which included: Reparing melted dash harness Replace Steering Box Rebuild Front Suspension Rebuild Rear suspension Rear Axle Swap with a Posi rear axle Disk Brake Swap Floorpan rust repair/changed most of interior to black from green installed front bucket seats Headers/Dual Exaust All that I have gotten out of it was 1 good summer of driving (2500 miles)...then the engine decided it didn't like having oil pressure. So...I replaced the tired original 318 (248k on it) with one i picked up at the junkyard out of an '89 Pickup...I took the engine all apart...performance cam, new valve springs, all new gaskets, perfectly clean, Edelbrock Intake, 600 holley, etc... Finally get that in and fire it up...break in the cam...runs sweet...go fire it up the next morning after changing its oil...really REALLY fucking lound sound coming from the bellhousing area...turns out I finshed off the torque converter's drive lug, which in turn took out the front pump and trashed the trans. :x So then I decide I am going to get a 4-speed because I said fuck it to crappy slush boxes...and well these things came with manual transmissions fairly often...so I pick up a nice 4-speed, bellhousing and shifter...I then cut the hole in the floor, welded the piece in, located a stock hurst shifter, put new carpet in again, converted it to a hydraulic clutch...fire it up last week and it only runs on 7 cylinders...which i think is just a spark problem...but then I had to come back to michigan...so it will be like 3 weeks before I can work on it again Oh, did i mention the body still looks like ass? I love the car so in the end it is all worth it...especially since it should have burnt to the ground 5 years ago...i saved it from certain death...and that makes me feel good Hang in there man! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveFromColorado Posted July 12, 2005 Report Share Posted July 12, 2005 I've got my mustang.. 3 engines, 6 or 7 transmissions, I lost count somewhere (still on the same orignial clutch I got with the car) at least 3 times doing the exhaust system, and I'm going on my 2nd rear end soon - I know what it's like to have a car die - my second engine went out without warning, the oil return from the turbocharger blew out on the highway (at HIGH speed) and smoked the motor, real quick. anyhow, I say save the turbo-engine'd car, put in a good bottom end, build somethin' up, then do up the upper half, and put together a super fast car. --Dave. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GP1138 Posted July 12, 2005 Report Share Posted July 12, 2005 Look at Chris (White93Z34), he's had mucho body work done on his Z, twice, and it's still driving. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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