BXX Posted February 19, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 19, 2009 the spring isolators i ordered from autozone. they are energy suspension pn 9.6103r. they cost me $13.99/pr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSI_MuNkY Posted February 19, 2009 Report Share Posted February 19, 2009 Nice! Thanks, I want to put them on the top and bottoms of the spring. Jamie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BXX Posted February 19, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 19, 2009 Nice! Thanks, I want to put them on the top and bottoms of the spring. Jamie good luck with that. fhere is a reason they wont be used on my fronts and only needed on my rear coilovers until i get a new upper spring seat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSI_MuNkY Posted February 19, 2009 Report Share Posted February 19, 2009 Whats that reason? Jamie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BXX Posted February 19, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 19, 2009 Whats that reason? Jamie i w7ll take pics tomorrow anddescribe ivebe2ebdrinkinv right no2w and my keybord isbroken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Night Fury Posted February 19, 2009 Report Share Posted February 19, 2009 We need a drunk test like Gmail has. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSI_MuNkY Posted February 19, 2009 Report Share Posted February 19, 2009 We need a drunk test like Gmail has. Maybe they can give us that while they are giving us our different forum skins back! Jamie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gpchris Posted February 19, 2009 Report Share Posted February 19, 2009 sweet! however i dont think the second gen strut mount will work with our struts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mra32 Posted February 19, 2009 Report Share Posted February 19, 2009 sweet! however i dont think the second gen strut mount will work with our struts. One note, the upper spring seat hole may need to be drilled out to fit the strut rod snug, no bigger, 5 minutes top to drill them out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BXX Posted February 19, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 19, 2009 sweet! however i dont think the second gen strut mount will work with our struts. One note, the upper spring seat hole may need to be drilled out to fit the strut rod snug, no bigger, 5 minutes top to drill them out. I meant with the upper spring mount I bought to fit over the strut rod. The strut rod hole for the Gen 2 mount is maybe barely smaller, so the same thing applies. the Gen 2 mount hole can be drilled unlike the Gen 1 because its hole is made from a stamped piece of steel. The Gen 2 is more conventional and can be easily drilled out. The Gen 2 mount is better period as it will have less movement than the Gen 1 which allows plenty of movement. I will be using these older mounts I have. They are still good, I took them off a 32K 03 Impala at work that blew its struts out in a dithing incident. We put on loaded struts, so I took the old units home I will also be filling the gaps in the mount with liquid urathane to prevent unwanted movement that the stock design has. Jaime, the reason to not use the ES Spring Isolators is with the proper parts, noise shouldnt be an issue, plus the lip on the spring adjuster nut and upper seat arent that high. If I squeeze the isolators over these parts, there isnt much lip left that will keep the spring in place a bit more. Im gonna go ahead and heat the isolators up and squeeze them over to see if there might be an issue Also, look on Summit Racing, QA1 has variable rate springs too. I will be using Hyperco which are better, double the price but still wont break anyones wallet. I wanted to make another note. We are using incorrect spring rates. Even with a single rate spring, if we had the correct one, we wouldnt have springs that come unseated while jacking up the car. Ever notice how Mustang coilover kits have 120-170lb springs on them What we have and are using work fine, but we are left with the nuisance of the spring unseating. No big deal, but gimme some time, and the issue will be worked out. Y'all can thank me later -Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venom Posted February 19, 2009 Report Share Posted February 19, 2009 Is that bearing assembly for two of them, or just one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gpchris Posted February 19, 2009 Report Share Posted February 19, 2009 sweet! however i dont think the second gen strut mount will work with our struts. One note, the upper spring seat hole may need to be drilled out to fit the strut rod snug, no bigger, 5 minutes top to drill them out. Sorry didnt read.. But still, the second gens threaded rod on top of the strut is longer than the first gen. Second gen on the left, first gen on the right And heres a pic showing the peice of the second gens mount that the threaded rod goes through.. Even if its drilled its too big, theres not enough threads poking out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BXX Posted February 19, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 19, 2009 I have 2 bearing assemblies. 1 for each side Chris, ever heard of a tapered hole??? It not real hard to figure out. Drill it out to the size of the threaded part of the rod, then countersink it to match the larger portion of the rod.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSI_MuNkY Posted February 19, 2009 Report Share Posted February 19, 2009 Any chance you could take pics while modifying those parts for the front? would help out the people interested in making their own coil overs. Jamie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BXX Posted February 19, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 19, 2009 Any chance you could take pics while modifying those parts for the front? would help out the people interested in making their own coil overs. Jamie If I have a camera with me. The car will be on a lift at my work while I do pretty much everthing, including replacing the cradle and rack, so time will be of the essence. If I get a spare set of front strut assys then yeah, I will have time and take pics Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOT2B GM Posted February 19, 2009 Report Share Posted February 19, 2009 's custom coilovers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BXX Posted February 19, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 19, 2009 whats so funny?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOT2B GM Posted February 19, 2009 Report Share Posted February 19, 2009 your name in emoticons Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BXX Posted February 19, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 19, 2009 yeah new avi.... since everyone has been getting that, i figured I might as well jump on the bandwagon too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOT2B GM Posted February 19, 2009 Report Share Posted February 19, 2009 nice haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BXX Posted February 20, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 20, 2009 i scored some front strut assemblies at the yard today. took them to work and tore them down. i only had enough time to get off 1 of the assys brackets.... airhammer ftw!!!! gonna go back and finish the other one tomorrow and i will be all set to get them assembled monday when my new sleeves come in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BXX Posted February 21, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 21, 2009 front knuckle assys are now finished. Went back to work to get them done, had another 1/2 hour in them. Not bad at all.. except I slipped with my air hammer and hit my finger.. Hurts like hell and bled like crazy but I didnt stop until I had them finished yeah, I know im insane The OE struts were still in the knuckles, so I kept one of the strut rods (if youve seen the OEs, you would understand) so I can get the Gen2 mount drilled and ready. New sleeves will be in Monday. So hopefully by next weekend, everything will be done and she will be slammed... im EXCITED!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BXX Posted February 23, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2009 The correct sleeves came in today Be back later with more. I need to go buy some drill bits Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BXX Posted February 25, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 25, 2009 Ok, heres an update... Gen2 stock mounts will work fine, but!!! You will need a 5/8" and a 1" drill bit (i.e. appx $50 for both) You must drill out the Gen2's mount hole for the strut rod to the 5/8" being careful not to bind it up (it can destroy the mount) and keep it cool (or it will destroy the rubber holding it). Use some lube or the like. After that is done, you will need to drill appx halfway through that with the 1" bit. That will countersink it and allow the Gen1 strut to fit in. The upper spring seat holes will need to be drilled to the 1" also. If you decide to use the Gen2 strut mounts, I recommend using something like liquid urathane to reinforce and stiffen the mount up for best results and longevity.. Heres the shit kicker now. I know they will work and work much much better than the Gen1 mounts, but I wont be going that route. Im gonna be patient and put forth the work to make adjustable upper strut mounts. Having easy camber and caster adjustment will be nice. Plus, they will almost more than likely be designed with sperical bearings. I have the design I want done, just have to get final measurements, implement them correctly, and have it drafted up by my father to like a CAD file so I can have the parts laser cut or however. I need to find a place in my area or anywhere almost to do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venom Posted February 25, 2009 Report Share Posted February 25, 2009 I think the only problem you might run into is having someone custom make you just two mounts is gonna cost you some serious $$$. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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