vtirocz Posted October 18, 2006 Report Share Posted October 18, 2006 As the subject says, the car cranks, but will not start . The engine was running fine the last time I shut it off, then went to start it the next morning and it wouldn't start. Here's what I've checked: 1. No codes from the ECM and everything is normal when I pull the codes.... I assume ECM is ok. 2. Seems to have adequate fuel pressure in the rail. 3. Ignition module checks out ok (checked it myself and had Autozone check it on their machine). 4. I'm assuming all of the coils, plugs, and wires did not go bad at the same time. 5. THERE IS NO SPARK (used one of the spark testers from autozone). 6. Pulled one of the plugs, but could not tell if there was any fuel on it. I"m leaning towards it being the crank position sensor, but what else could it be with the conditions above. I don't want to just start replacing parts and wasting money without knowing what the problem is. Thanks in advance for any help. Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q-Ball Posted October 18, 2006 Report Share Posted October 18, 2006 Tried jumping it? Sounds like what my car was doing when I first got it. Replaced the battery and good to go now. Well, almost... I need a new starter now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AWeb80 Posted October 18, 2006 Report Share Posted October 18, 2006 I"m leaning towards it being the crank position sensor, but what else could it be with the conditions above. Thanks in advance for any help. Jim that seems like a good assumption to me... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy K Posted October 18, 2006 Report Share Posted October 18, 2006 5. THERE IS NO SPARK (used one of the spark testers from autozone). I"m leaning towards it being the crank position sensor, but what else could it be with the conditions above. I don't want to just start replacing parts and wasting money without knowing what the problem is. check each of the plug wires to be certain. do you have a tach? a tach shouldn't move if either the CPS, or ICM are bad.... CPS's tend to crack anyhow with age. replace it, you might look in FAQ for assistance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vtirocz Posted October 19, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 19, 2006 Thanks for the replies. I do have a tach and it does not move at all when I crank the engine... stays at 0 RPM. I guess this points towards the CPS as well, right??? Any other input? Thanks, Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy K Posted October 19, 2006 Report Share Posted October 19, 2006 start there. next to chech if the problem isn't fixed is the icm, wiring, then ecm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1990lumina Posted October 19, 2006 Report Share Posted October 19, 2006 crank sensor tells the ignition control module all it needs to know so if it isn't functioning correct or at all your engine isn't going to start/run very well. you can check the wiring from the CPS firstt hough, as that is a free thing, and I've heard of the wiring getting melted to hot engine components and shorting out... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robby1870 Posted October 19, 2006 Report Share Posted October 19, 2006 crank sensor tells the ignition control module all it needs to know so if it isn't functioning correct or at all your engine isn't going to start/run very well. you can check the wiring from the CPS firstt hough, as that is a free thing, and I've heard of the wiring getting melted to hot engine components and shorting out... Yeah, that happened to me with my old 92 sedan. The wire rubbed itself bare, and when I would take off from a stop, the bare part would touch the block, thus grounding the signal out and the car would die. Took a while to diagnose since it would start and idle fine most of the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vtirocz Posted October 23, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 23, 2006 Thanks for all the replies. It turned out to be the crank position sensor. Replaced that and it runs great now. - Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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