Guest TurboSedan Posted October 11, 2005 Report Share Posted October 11, 2005 does anyone out there have a TGP heater core pipe? maybe someone out there has a dead parts car or know of a salvage yard with a TGP? i need the shorter heater core pipe/hose that comes out of the lower intake manifold under the throttle body and to the heater core inlet. i do have the fitting that threads into the lower intake, but i need the actual pipe/hose. NOT the long pipe that returns coolant to the top of the waterpump (already bought a new one from GM). if anyone has one or can get me one please PM me. it really sucks not having a heater now that it's getting cold out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff M Posted October 11, 2005 Report Share Posted October 11, 2005 I have been trying to get you that number, I have a huge pile of GM invoices that I went through and I do think the one I mentioned that will work and you can still get, at least order and check it before you buy is: 10080315. Sorry, been a little busy, just met with my tax man today to do my 2004 taxes, not enough time for personal stuff! Jeff M Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TurboSedan Posted October 11, 2005 Report Share Posted October 11, 2005 thanks Jeff, i really appreciate you digging that part # up! ecspecially when i'm driving around freezing my ass off delivering pizza i've actually had to leave the Cutlass at home the past few nights and drive my GTS instead. so far i can deal with being cold but then the windows start fogging up. i haven't checked with the GM dealership yet. i'm hoping they can pull up a pic of that that pipe so i can better visualize if it will work ok. i will check into that tomarrow for sure. right now i have the NA 3.1 style heater core pipe installed in the lower intake (the NA 3.1 heater core pipe is actually quick-disconect unlike the TGP pipe) and i chopped it off and clamped on a heater bypass cap. i thought about clamping on a short section of heater hose so i could get the heater working but i think the hose would probably be too kinked to work that way. and there is no way a NA 3.1 heater core pipe/hose would work with the downpipe in the way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GutlessSupreme Posted October 11, 2005 Report Share Posted October 11, 2005 Damnit! I didn't know they were different. I left it in the TGP when it got take away :? I don't know how long the car's going to last, but if I have a chance, I'll try to make it to the yard Wednesday and grab the pipe before it's gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TurboSedan Posted October 11, 2005 Report Share Posted October 11, 2005 Damnit! I didn't know they were different. I left it in the TGP when it got take away :? I don't know how long the car's going to last, but if I have a chance, I'll try to make it to the yard Wednesday and grab the pipe before it's gone. that would kick ass Tony. what i really want is a real TGP pipe. everything else under the hood is completely TGP (well....besides tranny, boost controller, K&N and chip). i guess i'm picky when i bought my LG5 engine from a junkyard Turbo STE i did not even think of the heater core pipe. i never did realize it was different until long after the junkyard crushed said Turbo STE :? i should be a Turbo STE owner in less than two weeks! but that car is going to need its heater core pipe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff M Posted October 11, 2005 Report Share Posted October 11, 2005 Hey good chance you might get a good used one 8) If not the GM dealer will order one for you even if it turns out the wrong one and will not charge you if you cannot use it/won't be buying it! Either way, good luck on that! Also, can't wait to hear about your TSTE 8) Jeff M Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bossman429 Posted October 11, 2005 Report Share Posted October 11, 2005 i should be a Turbo STE owner in less than two weeks! but that car is going to need its heater core pipe Indeed it will! I'm gonna put a full tank of gas in it today, and make sure no leaks. Finished up the fuel pump project last night. The fan is coming today as well. All $120 of it. Well, this is off topic, but oh well. I'm going to have to take a look at my heater core pipes, I don't know which one you're talking about. I had no idea it was different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff M Posted October 11, 2005 Report Share Posted October 11, 2005 i should be a Turbo STE owner in less than two weeks! but that car is going to need its heater core pipe Indeed it will! I'm gonna put a full tank of gas in it today, and make sure no leaks. Finished up the fuel pump project last night. The fan is coming today as well. All $120 of it. Well, this is off topic, but oh well. I'm going to have to take a look at my heater core pipes, I don't know which one you're talking about. I had no idea it was different. Getting a car from Bossman429 :shock: that's a very safe score 8) Bossman, about the heater pipes, its a 3 piece arrangement, one coming out the the lower intake, another (the one in question that is unique to these cars) coming off that and going down under the down pipe, and the last one that hooks to the firewall/heater core. Jeff M Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TurboSedan Posted October 11, 2005 Report Share Posted October 11, 2005 Bossman, about the heater pipes, its a 3 piece arrangement, one coming out the the lower intake, another (the one in question that is unique to these cars) coming off that and going down under the down pipe, and the last one that hooks to the firewall/heater core. Jeff M wow, it's three pieces? i really had no idea since i've never even seen one. if that is the case then i would need all three of them....from the fitting in the lower intake to where it attatches to the heater core. i'm trading my GTS for the Turbo STE Dave bought recently (not the one in his sig). we're meeting up at the RMCGP dyno event in Denver on the 23rd 8) i'm not planning on dynoing the TSTE, but the Cutlass will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LukeZ34 Posted October 11, 2005 Report Share Posted October 11, 2005 Are you delivering the car David? If so, stop through on your way to or from. Edit, nevermind, just read Josh's post! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bossman429 Posted October 11, 2005 Report Share Posted October 11, 2005 Bossman, about the heater pipes, its a 3 piece arrangement, one coming out the the lower intake, another (the one in question that is unique to these cars) coming off that and going down under the down pipe, and the last one that hooks to the firewall/heater core. Ah yes, the downpipe does hinder the standard heater pipe from working. Thank you, now I don't have to go out and search one of my cars. Jeff, here's the post that you might not have seen after I bought the STE Josh is taking: http://www.w-body.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=33061 Are you delivering the car David? If so, stop through on your way to or from. Were you planning on going Luke? I can't remember if you were going to be able to or not. I actually have a friend escorting me there in case any problems arrise. Hopefully it will be smooth as glass. Hopefully the cruise works on THIS STE, as it doesn't on my other . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jeff M Posted October 12, 2005 Report Share Posted October 12, 2005 Yea that is the bugger right there, well actually the one you see right off is the 1st one that goes into the end of the lower intake, it has that bolt hole bracket attached to it, but right were you see it get close to the down pipe and have a flared nut is where the 2nd pipe/next one starts/the one in question, and goes under the down pipe. Then that one comes up and turns from metal to rubber and has that long rubber neck up by the side of the ABS (rusty/old needing replaced accumulator ) then the rubber hose from this 2nd pipe is clamped over the 3rd pipe that snakes around and attaches to the heat core pipe. Thanks very much for the helpful pic Tony Jeff M Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joberlee Posted October 12, 2005 Report Share Posted October 12, 2005 I need one of those as well, a few months ago my really good parts guy at GM confirmed that it has been discontinued, wasn't even in the vintage parts warehouse anymore. My plan is to have one made by a place that makes custom hydraulic hoses. Although I was thinking of running it across the valve cover on the back of the engine and then across to the firewall and back towards the drivers side to get to the heater core, temporarily at least. Anything to keep it from the downpipe, unless I can fix the massive leak mine has at the crimp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff M Posted October 12, 2005 Report Share Posted October 12, 2005 Good info!! Now can you help me out??...by telling me what the part number was for that part???? Please Jeff M Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joberlee Posted October 12, 2005 Report Share Posted October 12, 2005 Sorry, didn't even write it down. We stood at the counter, looked it up, called and knew right away is was a dead number. I did get a washer fluid tank tho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff M Posted October 12, 2005 Report Share Posted October 12, 2005 :bawl: Man I wanted that so bad I spent 3 months going through all the TGP/TSTE parts and working with the dealer to get all the latest numbers and prices, that was one of the few that eluded my dealer, though the 3 that we ordered that showed for this car, only 1 was close, good enough to be able to work but not the exact same! Jeff M Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joberlee Posted October 12, 2005 Report Share Posted October 12, 2005 We just went by year and went item by item through the list, it's exclusive to PM3 and Turbo. It shows discontinued right on the screen, but so did the torque convertor inspection cover and the washer fluid tank (got em both from the vintage parts warehouse). That was at an Oldsmobile GMC dealer, just gotta know the guys really well I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff M Posted October 12, 2005 Report Share Posted October 12, 2005 Ok 8) , but I do have a really good parts guy, I mean he stuck with me through the 15 page excel spread sheet of parts for these cars I came up with, he got me new updated part numbers, prices and amount in stock and where, as well as with VPI. When we pulled up the turbo engine code (W37 or whatever, can't remember all that info any more ) it showed nothing that was clearly the one for the turbo, we even tried 1989 TGP, 1990 TGP and 1990 TSTE. The 3 that showed up we just got all of them, and like I said, there was only one that would work, thought not the exact same one. If I can get a good part number, I have some contacts back in Michigan at the Hope Street distribution center (where most parts come from, the building is too massive to try and explain :shock: ) that might still be able to find some of these, even if they are discontinued Need a torque converter cover? If it was discontinued I still have the rest of them here with a few other parts, got them before they were dropped! Jeff M Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joberlee Posted October 12, 2005 Report Share Posted October 12, 2005 I got my converter cover from the vintage parts warehouse. IIRC we found it by not specifying TGP, we just went with a GP SE and then narrowed it down from there, item by item. I initially got the wrong washer fluid bottle from one guy at that dealership and then my guy got on it and found me a NOS correct one at the vintage parts warehouse, it's a perfect fit. Luckily I had the battery cover with the notch out of the top. If i can track down that # i'll get it to you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff M Posted October 12, 2005 Report Share Posted October 12, 2005 I got my converter cover from the vintage parts warehouse. IIRC we found it by not specifying TGP, we just went with a GP SE and then narrowed it down from there, item by item. I initially got the wrong washer fluid bottle from one guy at that dealership and then my guy got on it and found me a NOS correct one at the vintage parts warehouse, it's a perfect fit. Luckily I had the battery cover with the notch out of the top. If i can track down that # i'll get it to you. Ahh so you are all set, good , and thanks for the alternate tip at narrowing down a parts location/part number 8) And big thanks in advance if you can find that number, was trying to get one for turbosedan, and know its something I should try to stock for people as I know there will be more later Jeff M Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joberlee Posted October 12, 2005 Report Share Posted October 12, 2005 Like I said, as of a couple months ago, that part number, whatever it may be, was completely unavailable. I have mine, it looked fine until i went to fill the coolant and it started running out like crazy from teh crimped area. Might be able to cut off the crimp and put the hose back over the pipe. But i think i'm gonna get one made at a local shop, I'll get a price for you if I get that done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff M Posted October 12, 2005 Report Share Posted October 12, 2005 I have some contacts back in Michigan at the Hope Street distribution center (where most parts come from, the building is too massive to try and explain ) that might still be able to find some of these, even if they are discontinued If i can track down that # i'll get it to you. Like I said, as of a couple months ago, that part number, whatever it may be, was completely unavailable. But you will give it a try to find the number? Like I said above, even when parts are no longer in the system/"completely unavailable" or at VPI, there can still be some at the main distribution plant, just have to know this kind of info and who to ask and I will do that leg work once I can get a number, thanks!! Anything else you are missing/might need??? Jeff M Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joberlee Posted October 12, 2005 Report Share Posted October 12, 2005 Nothing I can think of right now, the car still doesn't run so that needs to change befoer i buy anything else for it I'll see if I can track down that part number for ya. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff M Posted October 12, 2005 Report Share Posted October 12, 2005 Nothing I can think of right now, the car still doesn't run so that needs to change befoer i buy anything else for it I'll see if I can track down that part number for ya. Well do keep me in mind if there is something you can't get that I might have scored before it was discontinued. Glad to help you out! Thanks a ton if you can find the number, sounds like turbosedan and bossman429 both right now are in need, and as you found, its tough to find a good used one that does not leak or is not badly corroded, 2 of mine where pretty rusty as was one used one I bought that was crumpled when stuffed in the box by the seller And since the pipe runs so close to the downpipe/heat its not a good candidate for a custom rubber one in instead of stock. Jeff M Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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