dave31 Posted August 7, 2005 Report Share Posted August 7, 2005 I'm replacing my FRONT STRUT cartridges on a 92 Lumina Euro. The problem I'm stuck on is that the internal torx at the top of the shaft is stripped. It's basically a round hole. I need to get the shaft nut off though...so what can I do to hold the shaft in place so I can spin off the big nut? Do you think just cutting two vertical slices through each side of the nut would work? The new cartridges came with this nut so i dont care I if destroy the old one. I have small cut-off wheels and a dremel that would do it... Any other suggestions? I want to be able to re-use the big rubber bushing/bumper, so I guess i'll have to cut carefully. Any other ways to go about this? Thanks in advance. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiscoStudd Posted August 7, 2005 Report Share Posted August 7, 2005 Dremel out a groove in the top of the shaft so you can jam a flat-head screwdriver in there to hold the shaft in place. If that doesn't work, then try and cut the nut off. You might end up having to replace the rubber mount 'cause there isn't too much room to get in there with a Dremel without cutting up the mount... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave31 Posted August 7, 2005 Author Report Share Posted August 7, 2005 I'll try that today. Looks like its gonna be a 2 person job... Right now its soaking in PB. maybe that'll help too. Thanks for the reply, Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveFromColorado Posted August 7, 2005 Report Share Posted August 7, 2005 I use a vice-grip on the shaft of the old strut to hold it steady when hittin' it with the impact. --Dave. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gp90se Posted August 8, 2005 Report Share Posted August 8, 2005 Bolt cutter should be able 2 cut the bolt off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GnatGoSplat Posted August 8, 2005 Report Share Posted August 8, 2005 Impact wrench should take it off. I have a 12V impact wrench I bought from Harbor Freight for $20. It does a great job with that kind of stuff. It's slow, but faster than manual labor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SigEpCutlass Posted August 8, 2005 Report Share Posted August 8, 2005 Bolt cutter should be able 2 cut the bolt off. I'd say if this would be easier to do than working with a dremel. If you haven't done it yet, go with the bolt cutter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian P Posted August 8, 2005 Report Share Posted August 8, 2005 I use a vice-grip on the shaft of the old strut to hold it steady when hittin' it with the impact. --Dave. this guy knows it! I do the exact same thing when removing old struts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bartonmd Posted August 8, 2005 Report Share Posted August 8, 2005 Mine stripped too... impact! Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave31 Posted August 9, 2005 Author Report Share Posted August 9, 2005 I don't have an impact...but I might be able to borrow one. This might sound dumb, but how would I get vice grips in there? Can I pull down the boot thats in the fender-well to get vice grips on the shaft? thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bartonmd Posted August 10, 2005 Report Share Posted August 10, 2005 I doubt it'll work... In order for pliers or anything like that to work, it has to be able to dig into whatever it is you're trying to grab... I don't see that happening very easily on a strut... but you can sure try... Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave31 Posted August 11, 2005 Author Report Share Posted August 11, 2005 I pulled up the rubber bushing and can see the shiny strut rod... Vice-grips didnt grab onto it at all...way to smooth of a surface. I can't get any power out to where the car is sitting, so I have to pick up a cordless dremel & start cutting. If I screw up the bushing, oh well. I'll just have to be careful...or get another one. BTW: I bought a NEW torx bit and did the other sides' front strut in 10 min. The original torx I used that came w/ the W-body strut kit was bent...so it wasnt seating down in there...which is why I stripped out the dern thing in first place. Yep, I'm kicking myself now. Lesson learned i guess. Thanks for the help though. I'm glad I stumbled across this site...never knew there was such a following on these cars. Later Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gp90se Posted August 11, 2005 Report Share Posted August 11, 2005 LOL I bent the torq bit in the w-body strut tool kit accidently when I did mine. Your not from around natick mass are ya lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
streetdreams Posted August 11, 2005 Report Share Posted August 11, 2005 if its an internal torx than you could try slotting the nut to make way for a flathead driver. but if theres not much to work with. I know it dosent sound like a big deal but are you using REAL VISEGRIPS? I didnt believe it before, but non brand VISEGRIPS just dont bite like the real thing. with a good set of VISEGRIPS you could grab the shaft and have two people hang on to it and that sucker would hold no problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gp90se Posted August 12, 2005 Report Share Posted August 12, 2005 but if theres not much to work with. I know it dosent sound like a big deal but are you using REAL VISEGRIPS? I didnt believe it before, but non brand VISEGRIPS just dont bite like the real thing. with a good set of VISEGRIPS you could grab the shaft and have two people hang on to it and that sucker would hold no problem. Go look at the strut rod, no way its gunna grip inless ya manage 2 crush it, sorry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian P Posted August 12, 2005 Report Share Posted August 12, 2005 but if theres not much to work with. I know it dosent sound like a big deal but are you using REAL VISEGRIPS? I didnt believe it before, but non brand VISEGRIPS just dont bite like the real thing. with a good set of VISEGRIPS you could grab the shaft and have two people hang on to it and that sucker would hold no problem. Go look at the strut rod, no way its gunna grip inless ya manage 2 crush it, sorry. you don't need to "grip and crush" it if you're using an impact gun. It will move a small bit but the nut will spin off. Now trying to manually remove it, yes the vise grips aren't going to help much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave31 Posted August 13, 2005 Author Report Share Posted August 13, 2005 Here's what I did: 130 ft. of extension cord and some cut-off wheels... took a razor and cut away 4 sections of the upper half of the big bushing. Then I cut the nut on 2 sides and drove it apart with a long bolt and a big heavy mallet. With the nut off I could finish the project. I used black silicone adhesive (permatex i think) and glued the bushing back togather. I had to cut the bushing to be able to cut the nut off, w/ the way it sets in there. Since the bushing just fills up space in that housing, I don't see why it wont hurt anything. (saved me from buying a new $40 bushing too) I used the new nuts, but I had to put spacers under them otherwise there was a bit of play. I'm no longer driving a water-melon it handles great now, and it was worth the effort. Thanks for the replies, dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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