19Cutlass94 Posted May 2, 2007 Report Share Posted May 2, 2007 Ive seen people swapping them in. Ill try to find the links/pictures of it. BTW, the 3900 is 99mm bore 84mm stoke. The 3100 is 89mm bore and 84 mm stoke. Bigger yes, physical motor, no Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19Cutlass94 Posted May 2, 2007 Report Share Posted May 2, 2007 http://www.clubgp.com/newforum/tm.asp?m=3016372&p=2&tmode=1&smode=1&cookieCheck=1038467994 Second gen, but itll still fit first gen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Euro Posted May 2, 2007 Report Share Posted May 2, 2007 link is dead...but I know what you're talking about. AFAIK that's the only one who's done it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19Cutlass94 Posted May 2, 2007 Report Share Posted May 2, 2007 link works for me... but that proves it can be done Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
97loudcut Posted May 2, 2007 Report Share Posted May 2, 2007 Yes it will fit. Hell, people are swapping LS1's into first gens now. 1 person has done it. It is not a common swap, nor an easy one. Not to mention we are FWD and that is a RWD motor. So tranny, engine, and some mad fabbing to get it all to work. Besides, nobody has done that to a first gen yet. Doubt they ever will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19Cutlass94 Posted May 2, 2007 Report Share Posted May 2, 2007 hey slick did you see how the motor was positioned point of the matter is it will fit. so dont argue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobertISaar Posted May 2, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 2, 2007 i'm not used to these newer motors but is it anything like the generation 0 chevy motors: a 400 is the same size extenally as a 283? what kind of provisions would need to be made to make it fit in a W? i've noticed on most if not all fwd versions of motors something on the back of the motor is different compared to a rear wheel version. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19Cutlass94 Posted May 2, 2007 Report Share Posted May 2, 2007 Yes, the back of the block between FWD and RWD are completely different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
per0781 Posted May 2, 2007 Report Share Posted May 2, 2007 240 whp for $5000? thats cheap Well for about 5k or under I can get a complete L67/4t65eHD, and all the parts to swap it, plus have some cash left over for mods, and should be able to hit very close if not to that number. anything else you'll give or just stop the hating What? If you are implying that I am "hating" on the 2.8 you are wrong. It is decent reliable transportation. but thats about it. I'm done with this thread, I'll be back when a 2.8 can be fast. Ingredients for a fast 2.8: 1.) Length of strong rope 2.) '97+ GTP w/ trailer hitch Step 1: Tie the rope to the cradle of the 2.8 car Step 2: Tie the other end of the rope to the hitch on the GTP. Step 3: Get in the GTP and slam the gas. Step 4: Call 911 cause the engine is on fire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GP1138 Posted May 3, 2007 Report Share Posted May 3, 2007 240 whp for $5000? thats cheap Well for about 5k or under I can get a complete L67/4t65eHD, and all the parts to swap it, plus have some cash left over for mods, and should be able to hit very close if not to that number. anything else you'll give or just stop the hating What? If you are implying that I am "hating" on the 2.8 you are wrong. It is decent reliable transportation. but thats about it. I'm done with this thread, I'll be back when a 2.8 can be fast. Ingredients for a fast 2.8: 1.) Length of strong rope 2.) '97+ GTP w/ trailer hitch Step 1: Tie the rope to the cradle of the 2.8 car Step 2: Tie the other end of the rope to the hitch on the GTP. Step 3: Get in the GTP and slam the gas. Step 4: Call 911 cause the engine is on fire LOLLOL Sorry forgot a step! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Euro Posted May 3, 2007 Report Share Posted May 3, 2007 240 whp for $5000? thats cheap Well for about 5k or under I can get a complete L67/4t65eHD, and all the parts to swap it, plus have some cash left over for mods, and should be able to hit very close if not to that number. anything else you'll give or just stop the hating What? If you are implying that I am "hating" on the 2.8 you are wrong. It is decent reliable transportation. but thats about it. I'm done with this thread, I'll be back when a 2.8 can be fast. Ingredients for a fast 2.8: 1.) Length of strong rope 2.) '97+ GTP w/ trailer hitch Step 1: Tie the rope to the cradle of the 2.8 car Step 2: Tie the other end of the rope to the hitch on the GTP. Step 3: Get in the GTP and slam the gas. Step 4: Call 911 cause the engine is on fire LOLLOL Sorry forgot a step! Step 5: Put out fire and watch 2.8 powered W creep by Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5speedz34 Posted May 3, 2007 Report Share Posted May 3, 2007 Yes the answer to anything and everything is L67. You guys like really, REALLY need to get out more. GM has engines out making as much, or more power, without a blower. Why has it become like the end-all be-all solution to anyone's desires up in here? Yeah, no shit. Matt, you can't just make a generalization that all boosted cars can tow. PS-Soccer guy whatever his name is put a N* in a GTP. 5speed RWD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian P Posted May 4, 2007 Report Share Posted May 4, 2007 PS-Soccer guy whatever his name is put a N* in a GTP. 5speed RWD. That was an INSANE swap. I wonder if it's all done yet. Last time I checked it was really close! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miko K Posted May 4, 2007 Report Share Posted May 4, 2007 Where do I see it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Euro Posted May 4, 2007 Report Share Posted May 4, 2007 PS-Soccer guy whatever his name is put a N* in a GTP. 5speed RWD. That was an INSANE swap. I wonder if it's all done yet. Last time I checked it was really close! it was done, but IIRC it's apart again to fix something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bake82 Posted May 4, 2007 Report Share Posted May 4, 2007 Where do I see it? http://www.cardomain.com/ride/665715 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5speedz34 Posted May 4, 2007 Report Share Posted May 4, 2007 PS-Soccer guy whatever his name is put a N* in a GTP. 5speed RWD. That was an INSANE swap. I wonder if it's all done yet. Last time I checked it was really close! Well, I bought the 3.4/5speed setup he had. Last time I talked to him (last summer IIRC?) was on aim and he told me he was waiting for a turn key. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobertISaar Posted May 22, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 22, 2007 i was thinking about this a little more and came up with this: a 2.8 crank, 3400 block combo would be good if it barely meets a displacement limit, right? (again, like what chevy did with the 302 in the trans-am races) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roadzombie Posted May 23, 2007 Report Share Posted May 23, 2007 Huh? Most towing is done with boosted vehicles. (I.E. Semis, Trucks, Bus) These are also diesel engines...which are built to withstand >17:1 compression ratios and >35psi worth of boost. Case in point, a Cummins B3.9L I4 engine weighs roughly 1.5x as much as an old school cast iron GM 454 (7.4L) V8. They're only a "little" more stoutly built Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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