chadz34 Posted December 21, 2005 Report Share Posted December 21, 2005 Yeah so my friend calls me, tells me he got a 2000 Pontiac Grand Prix GTP for 7 grand Canadian. He got ripped off bad. It had no tranny when he got it. Anyways, I had no idea they made 2 door 97+ GP GTP's, I thought they were all 4 doors. He wants to race me this summer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfewtrail Posted December 21, 2005 Report Share Posted December 21, 2005 97+ drs could be had from 1997-2002, Pontiac dropped the coupes for the 2003 model year. PS: Hope you're racing from a roll. A lot of the 97's have turned out "freak" 1/4 mile times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chadz34 Posted December 21, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 21, 2005 97+ drs could be had from 1997-2002, Pontiac dropped the coupes for the 2003 model year. PS: Hope you're racing from a roll. A lot of the 97's have turned out "freak" 1/4 mile times. His is a 2000. But, where do I have a best chance against him. I don't want to race form a stop, because then, there's no point of racing, I'll get smoked. He has no mods at all. But, that's not to say he won't until the summer. I just can't see people modding cars in the winter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfewtrail Posted December 21, 2005 Report Share Posted December 21, 2005 97+ drs could be had from 1997-2002, Pontiac dropped the coupes for the 2003 model year. PS: Hope you're racing from a roll. A lot of the 97's have turned out "freak" 1/4 mile times. His is a 2000. But, where do I have a best chance against him. I don't want to race form a stop, because then, there's no point of racing, I'll get smoked. He has no mods at all. But, that's not to say he won't until the summer. I just can't see people modding cars in the winter. I guess I need to pay more attention when reading. :oops: Try a 40mph+ rolling start, that should net a decent race between both cars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Euro Posted December 21, 2005 Report Share Posted December 21, 2005 you didnt know they made Gen 2 GTP 2 doors?? havent you ever seen a two door GP with "GTP" on the sides?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chadz34 Posted December 21, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 21, 2005 you didnt know they made Gen 2 GTP 2 doors?? havent you ever seen a two door GP with "GTP" on the sides?? Well, I never really paid attention, because I thought they were all 4 doors. So, when my friend called me up I had to go look at it to believe it was a 2 door. So, a 40 mph roll should be a good race between a stock 2000 GTP and a 1992 Z34? :?: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pwmin Posted December 21, 2005 Report Share Posted December 21, 2005 probably in second from 35-40 mph would be your best chance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chadz34 Posted December 21, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 21, 2005 Ok, I guess we will try that, I got a lot of time to prep for that race. I wish the 3.4 had more low end, just so that it's easier to race. So, for the 35-40 mph race, will I pull ahead very hard on the GTP? Odds are, when we race, it will be a 40-110 mph race. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfewtrail Posted December 21, 2005 Report Share Posted December 21, 2005 Ok, I guess we will try that, I got a lot of time to prep for that race. I wish the 3.4 had more low end, just so that it's easier to race. So, for the 35-40 mph race, will I pull ahead very hard on the GTP? Odds are, when we race, it will be a 40-110 mph race. You might not pull any at all, race and find out, nobody can tell 100% that the race will go either way. I would stick to exactly 40mph for a start as the GTP will not kickdown to 1st gear at that speed, pretty sure a 35mph start will put the GTP into 1st gear...and they takeoff pretty hard from that kickdown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chadz34 Posted December 21, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 21, 2005 Ok, when does the 3.4 kick down? I know when it does kick down, it does so fairly hard as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runt Posted December 21, 2005 Report Share Posted December 21, 2005 The car had no tranny when he got it!!!!!! How did he get it home?!?!?!!?@12321412354 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john99gtp Posted December 21, 2005 Report Share Posted December 21, 2005 The car had no tranny when he got it!!!!!! How did he get it home?!?!?!!?@12321412354 :withstupid: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SigEpCutlass Posted December 21, 2005 Report Share Posted December 21, 2005 i never would have paid that much for a GTP w/o a tranny!!! Maybe half of that! Dude your friend is a moron...wow he got raped at the counter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy Posted December 21, 2005 Report Share Posted December 21, 2005 I like the idea of the 2dr GTPs, but the actual car is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitaloutsider Posted December 21, 2005 Report Share Posted December 21, 2005 Your friend is a tool. No one should pay that much for a W-body with no transmission. And of course you'll beat him. Everywhere in the powerband. He can't even move! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted December 21, 2005 Report Share Posted December 21, 2005 After reading this, i'm utterly speechless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chadz34 Posted December 22, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 22, 2005 Your friend is a tool. No one should pay that much for a W-body with no transmission. And of course you'll beat him. Everywhere in the powerband. He can't even move! I almost shit my pants when he told me how much he paid for it with no transmission. He has a new transmission in it now though. He's still a damn tool. His car is real nice in person! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prospeeder Posted December 22, 2005 Report Share Posted December 22, 2005 nice lookin car for sure, but i say it will take you cause of the auto, I know digital hung with one from a roll only with a manual Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chadz34 Posted December 22, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 22, 2005 nice lookin car for sure, but i say it will take you cause of the auto, I know digital hung with one from a roll only with a manual I guess we'll just have to find out. I thought from a roll. The 3.4 would have a good chance against a GTP in the high-rpm range. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sl3196 Posted December 22, 2005 Report Share Posted December 22, 2005 40 is the worst spot for a gtp lol. Cheater! Race him from a stop or 30 roll. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prospeeder Posted December 22, 2005 Report Share Posted December 22, 2005 nice lookin car for sure, but i say it will take you cause of the auto, I know digital hung with one from a roll only with a manual I guess we'll just have to find out. I thought from a roll. The 3.4 would have a good chance against a GTP in the high-rpm range. eh, the GTP still has 240 horses @5200-6kish RPMs wich is near its redline of 5900 RPMs, and im sure by its redline the power isnt dropped off to nothing, but who knows, 200hp 3.4 DOHC auto might make more power at its redline, i guess ull have to tell us what happends, do it now! lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chadz34 Posted December 22, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 22, 2005 40 is the worst spot for a gtp lol. Cheater! Race him from a stop or 30 roll. I don't want to lose. You guys are supposed to help me win! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted December 22, 2005 Report Share Posted December 22, 2005 I don't want to lose. You guys are supposed to help me win! You can't win. Your putting an outdated, automatic, underpowered NA engine against a much larger, supercharged, and newer engine. You'll lose no matter how you slice it. Getting a 10 second head start against him isn't winning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chadz34 Posted December 22, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 22, 2005 I don't want to lose. You guys are supposed to help me win! You can't win. Your putting an outdated, automatic, underpowered NA engine against a much larger, supercharged, and newer engine. You'll lose no matter how you slice it. Getting a 10 second head start against him isn't winning. Meh, I'm tired of you putting the 3.4 down. Just because yours is a piece of shit that isn't reliable doesn't mean they all are. Underpowered?...........Pass the shit your smoking buddy. 200 hp for a V6 in 1991 is amazing for an N/A engine. Any car that had more power wasn't N/A and certainly wasn't as affordable. On a side note, I don't care if I win or lose, it's all in good fun. I'd just rather win, I'm expecting to lose, so a win would be nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted December 22, 2005 Report Share Posted December 22, 2005 My engine is not a piece, and its not unreliable. i drove it 3 hours one way down the shore every weekend over the summer without one problem. You need to realize that the 3.4 is NOT the fastest thing on the road, you're not going to take an S/C GTP with it. 200hp out of a v6 in the early 90's WAS good, now its mediocre, if not poor. 200HP is not amazing by any means. You really need to get over this engine already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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