Guest Gp crazy Posted August 22, 2004 Report Share Posted August 22, 2004 I saw a White GP 199x Le with a 2.4 Quad 4 it look slow as hell that car weighed in at 3224 + OR - a few lb. it had suffered the case of valve into piston problem the miles were 120,999 I believe VIN code was A. i think it was also a 125c tranny? just drooped a line Jeff b Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supreme_style21 Posted August 22, 2004 Report Share Posted August 22, 2004 I don't know how anyone can say the 3.1 is slow . It sure as hell ain't FAST.. but it's quick enough to blend into traffic on the interstate.. pass a car on the highway... etc.. just what a majority of consumers are looking for. Granted, there are faster things out there, but I've got no complaints about my 3100 daily driver. I don't race it every weekend. I guess if I wanted to run it, I sure wouldn't have bought a GM sedan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Z34door Posted August 23, 2004 Report Share Posted August 23, 2004 ok my 3.1 isn fast but i can beat the piss out of it and it enjoys every minute of it...... and no 3.4 owner can say that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patgizz Posted August 23, 2004 Report Share Posted August 23, 2004 theres a 93 2.2 car in the yard by me. me and gp90se saw it when we were hunting for parts when he was out here last august. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteOut Posted August 23, 2004 Report Share Posted August 23, 2004 if you guys think a 3.1 w is slow, you don't know what slow is. Â Yeah we do...3.1's are slow. That and turtles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
excelsior Posted August 23, 2004 Report Share Posted August 23, 2004 maybe we should define slow and really slow. 3.1 = slow. heck 2.8 = slow while were at it. So does base model tauri including the ones today, almost every 6 cyl. by DC & Ford, every 4 cyl. toyota save for the 6 spd celica, alot of Hondas, alot of Nissans pre-2.5/3.5 4 & 6 cylinder engines respectively. Â Really slow = 3 cyl. metro, vans, 2.2 luminas haha, 4 cyl. tauri, almost anything from the 80's that isnt n/a or have an 8 cyl., every 4 cyl. by Ford really.....any auto 4 cyl. honda/toyota/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
94CutlassSLCoupe Posted August 23, 2004 Report Share Posted August 23, 2004 the 3100 is fast enough to get a little respect...it will smoke 80% of the Trucks/SUV's that are on the road, along with most if not all automatic normally aspirated 4cyl's, any GM v6 car with a th-125, 1992 saturn sl1 w/5-speed....i remember driving my sister's '94 when my parents owned it to High School and embarrasing the piss outta people who thought they had hot cars...that thing to this day can leave tons of rubber, and it will still go 120mph easily  The whole time that things been in my family, we've only had to replace the battery and rear struts (only actually had to replace 1) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
excelsior Posted August 24, 2004 Report Share Posted August 24, 2004 3.1 = slow 3100 = average.......it just feels slow after test driving the following cars: modded 3.1 f body*modded enough to make it equal in power to the 3100* + lighter weight + probably better geating = faster car a 305 even though it was the 170 hp version, fords 5.0 v8 tbird, & a sho..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blk92z34getrag Posted September 8, 2004 Report Share Posted September 8, 2004 This guy I used to know had an 88 Civic 4 door with a 5-speed. He had straight pipe exhaust, some fancy $200 intake, and some pep-boys 15" wheels and tires. I used to race him in my mom's 92 Lumina Euro with the 3.1 auto. I never lost one race to him. All the Euro had was a K&N drop in. Â However, the 3.1's are slow by today's standards. And they are especially slow when you're coming from a 5-speed LQ1... but we're talking about bone-stock 3.1's. The turbo and modded (wild cam, wazoo exhaust, ported everything) 3.1's are awesome cars. My friend has a 92 Baretta with a 3.1 (I don't know if it came stock or if he used it to replace a 2.8). Lemme tell you that is a fast mother fucker, and it's an auto too. Â And the guy that said van's are slow... lemme race you in my dad's 95 GMC Safari It's not as fast as my 5 speed Z34, but I've kept up with Automatic LQ1's in it. It has almost 204,000 miles on it too, and never been rebuilt. The 4.3's last forever. However the tranny has gone once and the rear-end once also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bolt_Crank Posted September 8, 2004 Report Share Posted September 8, 2004 ok my 3.1 isn fast but i can beat the piss out of it and it enjoys every minute of it...... and no 3.4 owner can say that. Â Â I can. I beat the everloving piss out of my 3.4 w/o ANY complaints. hell, I'm still on the factory alternator, and the t-belt is still brand new, and if it's ever been changed, it wasn't in my city. Â I off-road with my Z, I've towed a friends Jeep Commanche with my Z... and even though it weighs in at 3800lbs + on a good day, it still pulls a 16.5 in the 1/4 mile, and it burns no oil, I only have to add 1 quart of oil between changes (4200 miles or so) and the thing still gets 30 MPG @ 120km/h (75MPH) Â Â it's just that most 3.4 owners are afraid to beat them this hard... lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudefyet Posted September 8, 2004 Report Share Posted September 8, 2004 it's just that most 3.4 owners are afraid to beat them this hard... lol  Either that or they sit at home and jerk off to their w-body and think its some godly car that's gonna be worth some money and get respect when nobody else out there gives a fuck  I say to hell with it...if it's ugly...and has no resale value...beat the hell out of it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy Posted September 8, 2004 Report Share Posted September 8, 2004 theres a 93 2.2 car in the yard by me. me and gp90se saw it when we were hunting for parts when he was out here last august. Â snap a pic next time...I have seen a duke lumina but never a 2.2 one... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seanwil12 Posted December 18, 2012 Report Share Posted December 18, 2012 yeah harsh words Brad  I cant imagine the lumina coming with a 2.2. what a waste of a car. I think riding your bike would be faster  then why don't you ride your bike!? I would definitely drive a 2.2L lumina vs riding a bike. Just sayin. But I do think the 2.0L Neons have more power lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
94 olds vert Posted December 18, 2012 Report Share Posted December 18, 2012 Staph! What is going on here!? Â No more posting in old threads. Didn't we just have a PSA on how to check the date of the last post? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Night Fury Posted December 18, 2012 Report Share Posted December 18, 2012 Please inform me as to why it's such a big deal. Â Never did get why people get all butthurt at old thread bumpage, it gave me some pretty entertaining reading fodder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobertISaar Posted December 18, 2012 Report Share Posted December 18, 2012 relevant: i have yet to see a 2.2 lumi in person.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seanwil12 Posted December 18, 2012 Report Share Posted December 18, 2012 What's so bad about it haha, I found the thread quite interesting. I did a google search and found the thread that way and then replied Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seanwil12 Posted December 18, 2012 Report Share Posted December 18, 2012 I have never seen one! I kinda wanted to see how reliable they were. Course, with how scarce they are.. i doubt ill ever find one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoomZoomFan Posted December 18, 2012 Report Share Posted December 18, 2012 The 2.2s are/were damn near bulletproof. Head gaskets would go but they were ridiculously simple to fix. My first car (Beretta) had a 2.2 auto and it could barely keep up with traffic. Merging onto the interstate in it was downright dangerous. I'd imagine a 2.2 W-body would be even worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobertISaar Posted December 18, 2012 Report Share Posted December 18, 2012 not to mention.... Â http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/Find.do?action=sbs&id=10029&id=10030&id=10031 Â going off of the original ratings, the 2.2/3 speed got 21/29 the 3.1/3 speed got 19/27 the 3.1/4 speed got 19/30 Â so....... why the 2.2/3 speed was even offered confuses the hell out of me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seanwil12 Posted December 19, 2012 Report Share Posted December 19, 2012 GM was known for making insanely slow economy cars... Which is why i'm not surprised by the fact they made a 2.2 Lumina lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White93z34 Posted December 19, 2012 Report Share Posted December 19, 2012 IIRC they never actually made one. It was in the owners manual, yes. But so was a stickshift in early 1990 Lumina owners manuals. I Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobertISaar Posted December 19, 2012 Report Share Posted December 19, 2012 AFAIK, there were exactly 2 calibrations released for the 2.2 luminas... one california, one federal. BBTY and BBTZ. have never ran across one of those before either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Euro Posted December 19, 2012 Report Share Posted December 19, 2012 the 3100 is fast enough to get a little respect...it will smoke 80% of the Trucks/SUV's that are on the road, along with most if not all automatic normally aspirated 4cyl's, any GM v6 car with a th-125, 1992 saturn sl1 w/5-speed....i remember driving my sister's '94 when my parents owned it to High School and embarrasing the piss outta people who thought they had hot cars...that thing to this day can leave tons of rubber, and it will still go 120mph easily The whole time that things been in my family, we've only had to replace the battery and rear struts (only actually had to replace 1)   Reading the old posts here...this one made me 3100=185hp street stomper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairdo12 Posted December 23, 2012 Report Share Posted December 23, 2012 Ah I love an ancient thread... I can confirm I did see a 2.2 Lumina once in the Junk yard about 5 years ago. It certainly wasn't an Iron Duke. Now the LQ1 97 LTZ... That I don't beleive ever existed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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