supertrick_05 Posted January 23, 2011 Report Share Posted January 23, 2011 I was looking on Autotrader, Carsoup, and Craigslist...all over the United States...and out of all of the 94-96 GP 2-doors I found, I think maybe 3-4 were nice. The rest were decent but filthy and not taken care of. Another thing...why is it that you can't find a Grand Prix with a clean carpet? All of them are brown in the driver's area. Doesn't anybody care to clean their cars? Jesus... Ok, end rant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy Posted January 23, 2011 Report Share Posted January 23, 2011 The main reason is that the newest one is 15 years old...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
94 olds vert Posted January 23, 2011 Report Share Posted January 23, 2011 Yup, they are nothing more than used cars. With any 15+ year old car people are not going to take care of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twenty Posted January 23, 2011 Report Share Posted January 23, 2011 I can speak from experience as a lot attendant... It's because many, many people simply don't take proper care of their cars. I've seen vehicles just a few years old that look like they're ready for the junkyard. My parents and I keep our vehicles maintained and don't let the to-do list pile up, and the result is a fleet of aging cars (13, 18, and 19) that all look no more than a few years old. No special treatment (Aside from the GP, now that it's a project car), just maintenance, and they look fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScoobyDoo82 Posted January 23, 2011 Report Share Posted January 23, 2011 Thats the fate of most cars these days regardless of age. People just drive them until they fall apart and don't think twice about cleaning it or in some cases maintaining it. With first gen Ws getting rarer by the day, when people like that get their hands on them and they just drive them until the engine starts knocking and since its old they don't bother to fix it, or maintain it in the first place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supertrick_05 Posted January 23, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2011 It just pissed me off...the only NICE GP I've ever seen in my life was my dad's old '95 GP SE with the B4U aero kit. It was an exceptionally nice car. It had silver 5-star wheels and he had them painted white. I really wish he would have kept it. His old '91 GTP was a nice car as well, but back then the car was probably 5 or 6 years old. LoL I just hate that every GP I see on the road either has body damage, or is filthy, or is rusted out. It's really sad... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gp1991 Posted January 23, 2011 Report Share Posted January 23, 2011 well it gives you some stuff to work on right? lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penglii Posted January 23, 2011 Report Share Posted January 23, 2011 One Word... SALT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
94 olds vert Posted January 23, 2011 Report Share Posted January 23, 2011 One Word... SALT. Yes! Escpecially for those of us up in the rust belt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gp1991 Posted January 23, 2011 Report Share Posted January 23, 2011 yeah i hate salt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
virtuetovice Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 Cars have become disposable, so people don't care for them. I've seen cars from '08 already looking like hell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
94 olds vert Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 Cars have become disposable, so people don't care for them. I've seen cars from '08 already looking like hell. Lol that was probably me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfewtrail Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 (edited) Search greater distances, you're bound to found some that are nicer. When I do random searches here, I always come across a dozen or more nice condition cars for sale at any given time...and they're typically all rust free being in GA. EDIT: Searching craigslist will probably be your best bet as people are too cheap to pay for a autotrader listing for an older car. Have you actually searched all over the US via crazedlist or similar? Edited January 24, 2011 by mfewtrail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White93z34 Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 The cars were considered "disposable commuters" nearly 10 years ago. Its only gotten worse from there, rust, negligence, age, poor resale value have taken their toll. Which is why I like having one in good shape as it stands out now more then ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOT2B GM Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 Why aren't there any NICE 1st gen w-bodies anymore? Because we own them all already Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
white4d96 Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 Why aren't there any NICE 1st gen w-bodies anymore? Gee, thanks :mad: Seriously though, to most people nowadays cars are throwaways. There's another white 96 just down the street from me, it's rusting apart and runs like crap. I don't think the person has washed it since I first remember seeing it. And if I had a nickel for every car I've seen on CL with LIM failure or something easy to fix end up in junkyards a week later I could buy every single one of them. I guess the tl;dr version is that people just don't care like they used to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mra32 Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 Asking why there arent any nice 15-23 year old W-Bodies anymore is like asking why cant my 80 year old grandmother bust a move on the dance floor anymore...yes, some 80 year olds can still dance, but having the expectation of such seems foolish. The average age of cars on the road in the US is 9.4 years old. There are less on the road and the ones still there have had a hard life. 23 years of wear and tear will take a considerable toll on a car, even if its cared for. It also might make those with nice W-Bodies have more valuable cars. In a few years there might be some members on here with collector status cars...who knows? More wild things have happened. I'm getting frightened seeing parts for my car frequently on clearance on rockauto. I'm wondering how long till finding an axle might be difficult. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Euro Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 Not all of them have met the demise that most 15-23 year old cars have...but the ones that haven't are either on here or in some old person's garage somewhere across the country. I find a handful of nice ones in maybe a dozen autotrader searches. Heck, even nice 2nd Gen's are getting pretty hard to come by! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mra32 Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 Heck, even nice 2nd Gen's are getting pretty hard to come by! This is true. The reality of it is that these cars didnt even start out that nice. They were most likely the cheaper alternative to whatever else the person was considering buying. I know we all like them, but I think public perception plays a big part in this and these cars arent seen by most people as particularly desirable, thus leading to fewer people being enthusiastic about the maintenance of them, leaving fewer good cars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MemphisMan Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 I hear ya. I've been toying with the idea of driving a coupe version of my vert during the Winter months. I've done some half-assed searches for a 95 dark teal metallic CS coupe with tan leather interior. Nothing really nice online. If I ever get serious about buying one I'll go knocking door to door in South Florida where all of the retired folks have them hidden in their garages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MemphisMan Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 It's baaaaaaack. It's not a GP, but you won't find a nicer 1st gen out there. Just bring your wallet. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/196-ORIG-MLS-DOCUMENTED-LAST-CUTLASS-SUPREME-BUILT-/180615842636?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item2a0d8b0b4c I wonder why it was relisted. Deadbeat bidder? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 It's baaaaaaack. It's not a GP, but you won't find a nicer 1st gen out there. Just bring your wallet.http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/196-ORIG-MLS-DOCUMENTED-LAST-CUTLASS-SUPREME-BUILT-/180615842636?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item2a0d8b0b4c I wonder why it was relisted. Deadbeat bidder? Yours is nicer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MemphisMan Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 Thanks Jeremy. Let me rephrase...you won't find a nicer 1st gen out there FOR SALE. If only that couple was dark teal metallic and had tan leather interior... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Euro Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 It's baaaaaaack. It's not a GP, but you won't find a nicer 1st gen out there. Just bring your wallet.http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/196-ORIG-MLS-DOCUMENTED-LAST-CUTLASS-SUPREME-BUILT-/180615842636?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item2a0d8b0b4c I wonder why it was relisted. Deadbeat bidder? Too high a damn price I think is what it is. They're idiots...the last IL Mecum auction they had a top bid of $15k but it didn't meet reserve. Now that's they're starting bid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MemphisMan Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 This same seller did sell it via no reserve auction on ebay a couple of weeks ago for like $13.5k. I watched the auction end. Seems kinda messed up that they're now starting it at $15k. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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