GP1138 Posted March 1, 2010 Report Share Posted March 1, 2010 I can't sleep because I've been thinking about the list of things I need. Here's what I have so far. I feel there might be a few things missing and I'm hoping some of you could help me if so - and THANK YOU for doing so! PARTS FEL-PRO PERMADRY lower intake manifold gaskets FEL-PRO PERMADRY valve cover gaskets DORMAN upper intake manifold (includes a bunch of stuff; injector o-rings, PCV o-ring, PCV valve spring, vacuum o-ring, coolant passage seals) Coolant elbows PRODUCTS, COMPOUNDS, FLUIDS Permatex ULTRA BLACK Hi-Temp RTV Silicone Gasket Maker Threadlocker??? Which one??? (which bolts do I need to lock too? LOL) Prestone Super Cleaner Prestone Dex-Cool Mobil Oil & Filter Lots of distilled water TOOLS Ratchet & Sockets Torque Wrench Something to clean mating surfaces (should I use a cleaning agent on there as well?) Lots of rags Huh, huh. You said "mating". Hm heh heh heh. I'm watching this thread because I NEED to do this job on my Intrigue like, yesterday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Night Fury Posted March 1, 2010 Report Share Posted March 1, 2010 I didn't use threadlocker. It wasn't called for in the service manual. As for mating surface cleaning, you can use anything that doesn't scratch the metal. Razor blades are good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingVee Posted March 1, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2010 Beer. Considering the amount of things I have to buy here, I think we'll be a little short in our budget for beer. :lol: Huh, huh. You said "mating". Hm heh heh heh. Hhhhhuhuhuh. I didn't use threadlocker. It wasn't called for in the service manual. That's good to know. I thought I read it in my Haynes manual though. Oh well, one thing not to buy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q-Ball Posted March 1, 2010 Report Share Posted March 1, 2010 You need Loctite 242. I happened just to borrow some from work today for this job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slick Posted March 1, 2010 Report Share Posted March 1, 2010 IIRC, the injector o-rings that come with the Dorman kit are wayyyyy too big. I was able to reuse mine, after cleaning them, and rubbing them down in dielectric grease (not gobs of it, just a thin layer on the o-rings). However, if you are not able to re-use them, you should be able to pick them up at your local auto parts store. You will have to buy 2 sets of the o-rings though. I had this issue, and so did Al Walker. Hopefully he will chime in, maybe even with pictures. I'll try to find some pictures myself and post them up, just for reference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingVee Posted March 1, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2010 You need Loctite 242. I happened just to borrow some from work today for this job. I might not be able to get my hands on Loctite, but every store here carries Permatex, same company that makes RTV. Just don't know what color to use and how to really use it. IIRC, the injector o-rings that come with the Dorman kit are wayyyyy too big. I was able to reuse mine, after cleaning them, and rubbing them down in dielectric grease (not gobs of it, just a thin layer on the o-rings). However, if you are not able to re-use them, you should be able to pick them up at your local auto parts store. You will have to buy 2 sets of the o-rings though. I had this issue, and so did Al Walker. Hopefully he will chime in, maybe even with pictures. I'll try to find some pictures myself and post them up, just for reference. I'll keep that in mind. It's not like it's expensive anyway. What about the other o-rings included? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slick Posted March 1, 2010 Report Share Posted March 1, 2010 Those were there. I used some and didn't use others. Your discretion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingVee Posted March 1, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2010 Those were there. I used some and didn't use others. Your discretion. Well I meant, are they the right size or would I need to buy those too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slick Posted March 1, 2010 Report Share Posted March 1, 2010 They are correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AL Posted March 2, 2010 Report Share Posted March 2, 2010 I know Chris said I would chime in, but I am really not sure what to add other than it was a very easy job... What I did when taking parts off it keep the bolts with the removed part and line them up in order, and if you have to, write down what you take off in the order so you can put it back together the same way... Also invest in a torque wrench... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingVee Posted March 2, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2010 I know Chris said I would chime in, but I am really not sure what to add other than it was a very easy job... What I did when taking parts off it keep the bolts with the removed part and line them up in order, and if you have to, write down what you take off in the order so you can put it back together the same way... Also invest in a torque wrench... Neighbor's going to lend me his for now. There is already too much money involved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AL Posted March 2, 2010 Report Share Posted March 2, 2010 You find someone with a credit card? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisflstf Posted March 2, 2010 Report Share Posted March 2, 2010 IIRC, the injector o-rings that come with the Dorman kit are wayyyyy too big. I was able to reuse mine, after cleaning them, and rubbing them down in dielectric grease (not gobs of it, just a thin layer on the o-rings). However, if you are not able to re-use them, you should be able to pick them up at your local auto parts store. You will have to buy 2 sets of the o-rings though. I had this issue, and so did Al Walker. Hopefully he will chime in, maybe even with pictures. I'll try to find some pictures myself and post them up, just for reference. Dielectric grease is for promoting electrical conduct on electrical components, not for fuel injector o-rings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingVee Posted March 2, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2010 You find someone with a credit card? Not yet... People around me don't like that kind of stuff... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Night Fury Posted March 2, 2010 Report Share Posted March 2, 2010 IIRC, the injector o-rings that come with the Dorman kit are wayyyyy too big. I was able to reuse mine, after cleaning them, and rubbing them down in dielectric grease (not gobs of it, just a thin layer on the o-rings). However, if you are not able to re-use them, you should be able to pick them up at your local auto parts store. You will have to buy 2 sets of the o-rings though. I had this issue, and so did Al Walker. Hopefully he will chime in, maybe even with pictures. I'll try to find some pictures myself and post them up, just for reference. Dielectric grease is for promoting electrical conduct on electrical components, not for fuel injector o-rings Engine oil works fine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AL Posted March 2, 2010 Report Share Posted March 2, 2010 Dont use oil on the O-rings, it will cause them to expand and lose some of there elasticity and then they dont seal as well... Use the di-electric grease, it works the best, Chris, Its used because of how slick it is lol, even tho its not its main number 1 purpose, it still is recommended Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Night Fury Posted March 2, 2010 Report Share Posted March 2, 2010 Dont use oil on the O-rings, it will cause them to expand and lose some of there elasticity and then they dont seal as well... Use the di-electric grease, it works the best, Chris, Its used because of how slick it is lol, even tho its not its main number 1 purpose, it still is recommended Weird, the actual GM service manual said to use clean engine oil. I'm sure either would be fine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galaxie500XL Posted March 2, 2010 Report Share Posted March 2, 2010 I generally use a small amount of transmission fluid. It's a light lubricant, and won't damage the "o" rings. Dont use oil on the O-rings, it will cause them to expand and lose some of there elasticity and then they dont seal as well... Use the di-electric grease, it works the best, Chris, Its used because of how slick it is lol, even tho its not its main number 1 purpose, it still is recommended Weird, the actual GM service manual said to use clean engine oil. I'm sure either would be fine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisflstf Posted March 2, 2010 Report Share Posted March 2, 2010 I generally use a small amount of transmission fluid. It's a light lubricant, and won't damage the "o" rings. Dont use oil on the O-rings, it will cause them to expand and lose some of there elasticity and then they dont seal as well... Use the di-electric grease, it works the best, Chris, Its used because of how slick it is lol, even tho its not its main number 1 purpose, it still is recommended Weird, the actual GM service manual said to use clean engine oil. I'm sure either would be fine What about vaseline - it lubes well and is petroleum based Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slick Posted March 2, 2010 Report Share Posted March 2, 2010 Vaseline would be a much better choice over di-electric grease. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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