Grand Moff Joseph Posted October 26, 2005 Report Share Posted October 26, 2005 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/GM-Cutlass-Monte-Carlo-Lumina-Z34-Regal-Strut-Brace_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ6763QQitemZ8009648358QQrdZ1 The auction says that this STB is a GM part, and will fit all model year Luminas. Will this bar really fit a 3.1 Lumina?? You guys are the experts, so I turn to you for advice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitaloutsider Posted October 26, 2005 Report Share Posted October 26, 2005 You'll need the mounts from ZZP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pabz Posted October 26, 2005 Report Share Posted October 26, 2005 Looks like the one i have for my cutlass 2.8 and it clears, other than gettin in the way of my tranny dipstick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GutlessSupreme Posted October 26, 2005 Report Share Posted October 26, 2005 Yes, but as said above you either need the ZZP brackets, or you need to drill holes in your strut tower cap plates. That's the Buick "F-bar," the one everyone talks about getting from the dealership. What he says in the auction is BS, it's not discontinued, and it wasn't exaclty made for first gens either. just happens to fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Moff Joseph Posted October 26, 2005 Author Report Share Posted October 26, 2005 Yes, but as said above you either need the ZZP brackets, or you need to drill holes in your strut tower cap plates. That's the Buick "F-bar," the one everyone talks about getting from the dealership. What he says in the auction is BS, it's not discontinued, and it wasn't exaclty made for first gens either. just happens to fit. OK, this prompts two more questions: 1. Will this bar perform the same as an RSM bar or a custom bar from AWeb80? 2. Since this STB was technically not made for Luminas, would it be better to get a custom one (RSM/AWeb) than to go with the GM part that technically was not made for the car?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GutlessSupreme Posted October 26, 2005 Report Share Posted October 26, 2005 1. Will this bar perform the same as an RSM bar or a custom bar from AWeb80? 2. Since this STB was technically not made for Luminas, would it be better to get a custom one (RSM/AWeb) than to go with the GM part that technically was not made for the car?? The way I see it, a bar is a bar. People have bought pipes from home depot and welded them across the plates. It's the same effect. Sure, thickness matters a bit, but all of the bars we're talking about are close enough. Probably not enough of a difference to actually notice different effects on handling between them. There's nothing special about any of them that's going to make one 10x more better than another one. Pretty much the only deciding factor is ease of installation and appearance. And price, of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J Posted October 26, 2005 Report Share Posted October 26, 2005 $21 for shipping?!11?1/! THATS NUTS! i got mine for $16 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitaloutsider Posted October 26, 2005 Report Share Posted October 26, 2005 The dealer has them NEW for like $16. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AWeb80 Posted October 26, 2005 Report Share Posted October 26, 2005 Yes, but as said above you either need the ZZP brackets, or you need to drill holes in your strut tower cap plates. That's the Buick "F-bar," the one everyone talks about getting from the dealership. What he says in the auction is BS, it's not discontinued, and it wasn't exaclty made for first gens either. just happens to fit. OK, this prompts two more questions: 1. Will this bar perform the same as an RSM bar or a custom bar from AWeb80? 2. Since this STB was technically not made for Luminas, would it be better to get a custom one (RSM/AWeb) than to go with the GM part that technically was not made for the car?? that bar will fit the front Pic here but it won't fit the rear. Mine does. Pics here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Posted October 26, 2005 Report Share Posted October 26, 2005 pic of mine on 2nd page. $17 total cost shipped from GMpartsdirect.com And I have no trouble checking my tranny fluid. Stick comes out behind the bar. Install beveled side forward/flat thick side to the rear. http://w-body.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=27253&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=15&sid=a6aa4c0c47be359e52b231c45ea20616 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Euro Posted October 26, 2005 Report Share Posted October 26, 2005 yeah getting one new from gm=what $16?? and RSM's special-afied one...$100 hmm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Moff Joseph Posted October 26, 2005 Author Report Share Posted October 26, 2005 OK, so if I go to GM and order an STB for my car (3.1 1st gen Lumina), which bar should I ask for? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19Cutlass94 Posted October 26, 2005 Report Share Posted October 26, 2005 I have the RSM bars if you want to see what they look like in person, but the GM ones are much cheaper and do the same thing. But when you get the bars, get both, because it seems like just the front alone doesnt do very much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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