boechler14 Posted November 10, 2004 Report Share Posted November 10, 2004 irecently noticed and add for hypertech chips and kinda got interested in doing somehin like that to my car except the price was $240 for i think 15 hp so it didn't seem worth it is there any other kind of easy and reasonably cheap mod that i can do to my car to get some more power out of it? with out damaging my engine or killin my gas mileage? i have a 90 grand prix with a 3.1 and 200 000 km on it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manitcor Posted November 10, 2004 Report Share Posted November 10, 2004 1 - Hypertech is a waste of money and does not work as advertsied 2 - Cheap performance is an oxymoron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
93CutlassSupreme Posted November 10, 2004 Report Share Posted November 10, 2004 there is no easy or cheap performance for w-bodies. nothing cheap will make much difference. an intake or exhaust will be barely noticable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Posted November 10, 2004 Report Share Posted November 10, 2004 I know some members witll disagree with me, but I still think my Cutlass has more power after I added a warm air cone intake to my car. Maybe the stick makes up for the lack of lower end, but there's that anyways. Depending on your location and emmisions checks you could remove the cat and install a test pipe, that will free up some, quite a bit if it's becoming plugged. You could install an adjustable modulator in the trans, that'll give you a firmer shift. There are the underdrive pulleys, I've no experience with them myself but people seem to like them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boechler14 Posted November 10, 2004 Author Report Share Posted November 10, 2004 ic well that kinda blows then what would be the best all around mod to do smething thats easy and makes a noticable difference without emptying my bank account Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boechler14 Posted November 10, 2004 Author Report Share Posted November 10, 2004 sounds like those things mite be kind of in my ability i've already removed the cat and put in a straight pipe in its place and noticed somewhat of a difference..i have absolutly no idea about performance and how to do anything along those lines so is there any way i can find out everything id need to know about those kind of things? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
93CutlassSupreme Posted November 10, 2004 Report Share Posted November 10, 2004 ic well that kinda blows then what would be the best all around mod to do smething thats easy and makes a noticable difference without emptying my bank account there's nothing that will fit those requirements. w-bodies have no aftermarket, which means w-bodies have no cheap speed parts. if you want cheap speed, buy another car, such as a Mustang or Camaro/Firebird. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Posted November 10, 2004 Report Share Posted November 10, 2004 Here's a free mod. Pull the snorkel off the front of your airbox. If you like the sound and think you gain any performance, then install a warm air intake. The snorkel trick is an easy way to try before you buy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GutlessSupreme Posted November 10, 2004 Report Share Posted November 10, 2004 a lot of people have said that it kills low end torque though.. if I hadn't completely mutilated mine trying to pull it out in the first place, I'd put it back on to test it, but the results are fairly unanimous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White93z34 Posted November 10, 2004 Report Share Posted November 10, 2004 well you could always get a chip for it, i'm told they make a prety nice difference, they aren't the cheepest but i believe ben (vegeta) makes his own that work quite well and are dyno proven to be better then hypertech, i believe they go for around $120ish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THe_DeTAiL3R Posted November 10, 2004 Report Share Posted November 10, 2004 Unless you put some form of forced induction, or a HELL of alot of real engine work (not just bolt ons) you aren't gonna get much faster than high 16s in the 1/4 mile. If you want to get in the 15s or lower an engine swap is the only way... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boechler14 Posted November 10, 2004 Author Report Share Posted November 10, 2004 cool thanks how would i find out where to get that chip? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonyman87 Posted November 10, 2004 Report Share Posted November 10, 2004 $45 K&N dropin filter keep it stock that many miles on the car its not worth dumping load of money on to gain at most a half second for cheep mods when you probably will be running umm maybe mid high 16s or low 17s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boechler14 Posted November 10, 2004 Author Report Share Posted November 10, 2004 alrite so its pointless oh well i geuss ill deal with it till it dies thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PsychoX Posted November 10, 2004 Report Share Posted November 10, 2004 yeah http://www.fastfwdperformance.com they have some stuff for w-bodies. i beleive it is vegeta who makes some things for them? or all of them? not sure but anyways you can upgrade the dogbone (engine mount) which reduces engine rock and reduces lost power and torque to the transaxle. they also have an underdrive pulley, and i dont know if they still have the performance chip that V made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THe_DeTAiL3R Posted November 10, 2004 Report Share Posted November 10, 2004 The fastest naturally aspired 3.1 that I know of is a Cavalier Z24 which runs something like 14.7 1/4mile. LOTS of work done to that engine! That's about 1.5 seconds quicker than a stock Z24. Owner's name is Franz, he's over at 60degreeV6.com But, add the weight of a w-body and add an automatic tranny that would probably drop you down to the high 15s/low 16s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
w3rk5 Posted November 20, 2004 Report Share Posted November 20, 2004 My car so far is nothing but cheap mods. I dunno if I should be proud of that. :? When I pulled out the "snorkel" from my airbox I notice two things. It sounds better and my hwy mpg was better. Didn't really notice anything with the K&N but that was expected. Anyways, it'll last me forever. One mod that surprised me the most was my "engine grounding kit". You can probably make one for $30+ depending on how nice you want to make them. My next mod will be to remove the "U-Bend" on my exhaust. Dunno if I'll be able to feel the difference but someone told me my fuel economy will be better. Oh yeah! Maybe make a "cold air induction" too. P.S. Hey C-Bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zfreak Posted November 21, 2004 Report Share Posted November 21, 2004 Just go for broke and do the L67 swap, by the time you research and try to find mod parts it would be cheaper then you can mod from there http://www.l67swap.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
93CutlassSupreme Posted November 21, 2004 Report Share Posted November 21, 2004 i'm so fucking tired of hearing about the L67 swap. if you want a fast car, buy something else. simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sl3196 Posted November 21, 2004 Report Share Posted November 21, 2004 i'm so fucking tired of hearing about the L67 swap. if you want a fast car, buy something else. simple. So your saying the L67 can't be fast? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vegeta Posted November 21, 2004 Report Share Posted November 21, 2004 what, sick of hearing about the L67 swap? BLASPHEMY! I wear my shirt with pride:P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sl3196 Posted November 21, 2004 Report Share Posted November 21, 2004 what, sick of hearing about the L67 swap? BLASPHEMY! I wear my shirt with pride:P So how exactly do you fuck the l67? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrandPrix34 Posted November 21, 2004 Report Share Posted November 21, 2004 lol. here we go again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrandPrix34 Posted November 21, 2004 Report Share Posted November 21, 2004 wait, I'll answer that one! You park anywhere and hope IT doesn't fuck YOU over and decided to get so mad it literally burst into flames! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sl3196 Posted November 21, 2004 Report Share Posted November 21, 2004 wait, I'll answer that one! You park anywhere and hope IT doesn't fuck YOU over and decided to get so mad it literally burst into flames! Shut up and go change your alternator! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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