18incholdz Posted September 16, 2003 Report Posted September 16, 2003 allright, this winter i am taking out a 10,000 dollar loan so i can do shit to my car....The three things that i am definetly going to do is put the 3800 s/c in my car, and since i dont have to pay for installation that should only cost me about 2 grand...2nd I am going to put the coilovers in the rear of my car and lower the front of it..that should be about 6-800 bucks, and 3rd i am taking to get ghost flames put on the front, have the turn signals on the fenders shaved, and have the antenna shaved...that should about 1200 bucks....so that leaves me with 6000 dollars to play with...should i build up the motor, do interior and stereo work? or what else could i do to a 95 olds cutlass supreme???? Quote
Aaron Posted September 16, 2003 Report Posted September 16, 2003 leave the 3.4 thast in it(i hope) and trbo it, then youll have 350hp thatll waste a Z06. Quote
Guest RedCutlassSL Posted September 16, 2003 Report Posted September 16, 2003 build the motor mildly, then do the interior and get a stereo. cover all the pages Quote
L67wanaB Posted September 16, 2003 Report Posted September 16, 2003 Build up the engine: CIA SC pulley Extrude hone and build up the heads Cat back exhaust, maybe P&P the exhaust manifold Upgrade the ignition Intercooler Add strut tower braces on both the front and the rear. Beefier sway bars. Upgrade the brakes. The start on the interior. I'm a stereo is last kind of guy. Quote
cutsup1996 Posted September 16, 2003 Report Posted September 16, 2003 yeah stereo last, just as long as some kind of speakers are in the car and a cd player, the other guys can't hear your radio unless your speedin' past em'. don't want an' all show no goer do ya Quote
J Posted September 16, 2003 Report Posted September 16, 2003 how do you not have to pay for install???? The motor and trans* will be more than $2,000. If your gonna do the swap might as well get the motor new and a rebuilt tranny. I say do the interior and leave the outside stock "maybe new paint but no flames" so it is a sleeper. I am unsure if you can use the 4t60e for the l67* Quote
L67wanaB Posted September 16, 2003 Report Posted September 16, 2003 I am unsure if you can use the 4t60e for the l67* You can, just not for very long. Experience can be a bitch. I have to agree with the sleeper mentality. Quote
The Burning Rom Posted September 16, 2003 Report Posted September 16, 2003 I'm assuming he's gonna install it himself...that would be free. I'd go for an engine build up. Cam Modular Snout 3.2" Pulley DHP PCM Stage II Heads TOG Headers Cheetah FWI ZZP Intercooler Intense LSD (Or a quaife, if you feel spendy..but really any kind of LSD will work) Stage II Ported Blower LS1 TB I'm always anit-stero upgrades...I don't even like exterior upgrades that much. That's why I'd go for the engine build-up Although I do kinda like the turbo 3.4 idea. Quote
Power-Glide Posted September 16, 2003 Report Posted September 16, 2003 leave the 3.4 thast in it(i hope) and trbo it, then youll have 350hp thatll waste a Z06. Quote
Guest RedCutlassSL Posted September 16, 2003 Report Posted September 16, 2003 aaron, a 350 hp w-body won't beat a 406 hp y body Quote
Robby1870 Posted September 16, 2003 Report Posted September 16, 2003 leave the 3.4 thast in it(i hope) and trbo it, then youll have 350hp thatll waste a Z06. w3rd, TimG has said the turbo DOHC is COMEPLETELY custom and has already run him $3K-$4K. For what he wants, an L67 and tranny would be much cheaper Robby Quote
Redfox340 Posted September 16, 2003 Report Posted September 16, 2003 allright, this winter i am taking out a 10,000 dollar loan so i can do shit to my car.... $10K? I think a new cart is in order; especially when you're tackin' on a loan. I couldn't get the "out-of-the-box" performance I wanted from my W-Body; so I changed it up. When you're dumping that much cash you better be making some impressive numbers / times. Or else it means nothing in my [personal] books... This is not a negative posting, mearly a basic reality check. Think about it, do you want to be in debt, again? - Erik Quote
18incholdz Posted September 16, 2003 Author Report Posted September 16, 2003 i already have a stereo that is loud as hell..but i meant get the fiberglass enclosure and do shit like that...and i'm not doing a 3.4 turbo because i would rather have spend my money buying a 3800 than a 3.4....i dont so much care about the sleeper look, i want the flames to make it stand out amongst the crowd, something where people will look and go.."wow"...and i'm getting the installation free because my friend knows a mechanic who will let me use his garage if my friend and i do the swap... Quote
Bolt_Crank Posted September 17, 2003 Report Posted September 17, 2003 leave the 3.4 thast in it(i hope) and trbo it, then youll have 350hp thatll waste a Z06. well.... you'd need about 10 - 15 HP more than the vette, and somehow, increase the torque to be a little higher, then it could keep up to the vette.... since the Vette is like 3200lbs.... and, and definately a manual tranny Quote
phantomFE3 Posted September 17, 2003 Report Posted September 17, 2003 allright, this winter i am taking out a 10,000 dollar loan so i can do shit to my car.... $10K? I think a new cart is in order; especially when you're tackin' on a loan. I couldn't get the "out-of-the-box" performance I wanted from my W-Body; so I changed it up. When you're dumping that much cash you better be making some impressive numbers / times. Or else it means nothing in my [personal] books... This is not a negative posting, mearly a basic reality check. Think about it, do you want to be in debt, again? - Erik :withstupid: spend that 10g's on a car that you can buy for half of your money that will be faster than your car will be with all the money you put into it. you can get a DAMN nice f-body for 10 thou, i bet you can get a decent early vette for less than 10 g's too, in the carshow here in bemidji a couple years ago this guy was selling a 71 corvette, completely bone stock, damn near mint condition with a 350, no body damage or anything wrong with the car for 9 thousand. Quote
PJB Posted September 17, 2003 Report Posted September 17, 2003 Why put all that money into a car worth less than 1/2 that much? Buy a newer car, like maybe a used GTP or something. Quote
Bolt_Crank Posted September 17, 2003 Report Posted September 17, 2003 or, you could do the L67 swap and "donate" the rest to me donations are tax write offs.... Quote
Brian P Posted September 17, 2003 Report Posted September 17, 2003 10 grand into a car with a book value of $500, after everything's done it'll probably go down in value, especially if everything isn't done by a professional, and can't show receipts for everything Quote
GPRACER Posted September 18, 2003 Report Posted September 18, 2003 If I were you, I'd disregard all the negativity. If you want to sink money into your W, than do it. I wish I could. You could probably save a little money by using your existing tranny. The 4t60e CAN be built to withstand a lot of extra power. Wouldn't hurt to visit a tranny shop and get some parts from a hd 4t65e, a lot of things are interchangeable among the two. I'm no expert on tranny's but one of the transmission guys at work built a 4t60 to mate with a 350 sbc, in a fiero, runs 12's in the quarter and put's lots of miles on it. The big thing is to block of the accumulators, the tranny will shift as hard as hell, but no slippage between clutches at all. Quote
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