IRONDOG442 Posted May 18, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 18, 2008 Trying to decipher a vin from a show car or factory pace or track car is stupid and impossible. There is no rhyme or reason on the vin on my Zebra show car until you look at the other two SC-3s. They are sequential to each other. Secondly you already know the specifics of this car like engine, trans, trim, wheels, year, body style and other options. What else do you need to know from the vin#? This isnt a GM pace car its a PPG pace car which made many track cars for Indy back in the mid and late 80s. The car needs no other provinence except for the fact that it exists. Nothing else will be gained from its vin # other than just cataloging it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IRONDOG442 Posted May 18, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 18, 2008 We should move this discussion to other important factors like, what you all think its worth, what will it sell for? And how much our monthly payments will be after we finance it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_mezz Posted May 18, 2008 Report Share Posted May 18, 2008 What is PPG? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IRONDOG442 Posted May 18, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 18, 2008 Pittsburg Plate Glass they also mix paints. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManicMechanic Posted May 18, 2008 Report Share Posted May 18, 2008 I'm wanting to know if there are any other 1988 WM14 Cutlass Supremes out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian P Posted May 18, 2008 Report Share Posted May 18, 2008 it looks like an '88 pace car with 1992 parts (exterior, seats) done up by PPG. AmIrite? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManicMechanic Posted May 18, 2008 Report Share Posted May 18, 2008 it looks like an '88 pace car with 1992 parts (exterior, seats) done up by PPG. AmIrite? Â Well, damn. That's what I've been saying!!! 1988 Indy Pace Car done up in 1992 International parts... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy K Posted May 18, 2008 Report Share Posted May 18, 2008 I'm wanting to know if there are any other 1988 WM14 Cutlass Supremes out there. what I want to know too!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian P Posted May 18, 2008 Report Share Posted May 18, 2008 it looks like an '88 pace car with 1992 parts (exterior, seats) done up by PPG. AmIrite? Â Well, damn. That's what I've been saying!!! 1988 Indy Pace Car done up in 1992 International parts... Â Yah and I want to establish my opinion that this car did NOT look like this in 1988, but was probably done within the last 10 years. I don't believe the '92+ exterior was designed in the late 80's since every piece on that car looks OEM, not hand-made or prototype. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManicMechanic Posted May 18, 2008 Report Share Posted May 18, 2008 it looks like an '88 pace car with 1992 parts (exterior, seats) done up by PPG. AmIrite? Â Well, damn. That's what I've been saying!!! 1988 Indy Pace Car done up in 1992 International parts... Â Yah and I want to establish my opinion that this car did NOT look like this in 1988, but was probably done within the last 10 years. I don't believe the '92+ exterior was designed in the late 80's since every piece on that car looks OEM, not hand-made or prototype. Â Thank you. I can't find any information about the car. I'm going to dig out my old Autoweeks from 1991+. If there's anything about ti, it's in there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian P Posted May 18, 2008 Report Share Posted May 18, 2008 cool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AWeb80 Posted May 18, 2008 Report Share Posted May 18, 2008 what race did this Pace? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Addicted to eaton Posted May 18, 2008 Report Share Posted May 18, 2008 1988 yugo's GVX's lol Kidding. I want it though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IRONDOG442 Posted May 18, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 18, 2008 I am not with you guys on the whole they redid an 1988 later on. That is a whole lot of trouble to go through just to have a modern looking Pace Car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IRONDOG442 Posted May 18, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 18, 2008 This car seems to be part of PPG's pace car line up which had some pretty remarkable cars many of them futuristic and even have a legal history. PPG tried to get out of paying Ohio Use tax. Heres a PDF of the lawsuit which exlains what these cars were used for.  http://www.sconet.state.oh.us/rod/docs/pdf/0/1996/1996-ohio-116.pdf  Heres a photograph of another Oldsmobile in the PPG Pace car line up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IRONDOG442 Posted May 18, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 18, 2008 Here are some more from the PPG pace car lineup many of them were Dodges. Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IRONDOG442 Posted May 18, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 18, 2008 One theroy that many of you may or may not subscribe to is the possibility of PPG doing the design work for the 1992 and up body style and GM seeing the car on the track and purchasing the rights to the design. it seems outlandish but of you look at the other PPG cars which they supposedly designed themselves it is certainly possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pontiac6ksteawd Posted May 18, 2008 Report Share Posted May 18, 2008 Want more info about the Subaru SVX pace car... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IRONDOG442 Posted May 18, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 18, 2008 Ask and you shall recieve  http://www.driveperformance.subaru.com/version4_2/attic3.asp  FTR those cars are hideous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian P Posted May 18, 2008 Report Share Posted May 18, 2008 One theroy that many of you may or may not subscribe to is the possibility of PPG doing the design work for the 1992 and up body style and GM seeing the car on the track and purchasing the rights to the design. it seems outlandish but of you look at the other PPG cars which they supposedly designed themselves it is certainly possible. Â certainly possible but we've gotta get more info on this bad boy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy K Posted May 18, 2008 Report Share Posted May 18, 2008 One theroy that many of you may or may not subscribe to is the possibility of PPG doing the design work for the 1992 and up body style and GM seeing the car on the track and purchasing the rights to the design. it seems outlandish but of you look at the other PPG cars which they supposedly designed themselves it is certainly possible. I concur with this statement. But I also suggested the idea that GM designed different versions of the car in the first place, and what we see here could be either: Â 1 an example of a prototype GM built with a 92 + body style, which has been converted into a pace car. Â 2 a factory 88 car converted into a custom body by PPG or others, which GM adopted as it's own for 92+ cars. Â Â Let me Remind you The 1988 Aerotech III featured components that GM used on 92+ cars. Which example above does that most resemble??? Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theghoul Posted May 18, 2008 Report Share Posted May 18, 2008 Ask and you shall recieve  http://www.driveperformance.subaru.com/version4_2/attic3.asp  FTR those cars are hideous x2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IRONDOG442 Posted May 18, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 18, 2008 I have been looking for info on this car and it looks like PPG is the best way to get it. Info is hard to gather on the intrawebs for this vehicle not so much the PPG cars but the 1988 Pace Car specifically. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IRONDOG442 Posted May 18, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 18, 2008 http://www.sconet.state.oh.us/rod/docs/pdf/0/1996/1996-ohio-116.pdf If you guys would read this case there is nothing else to duscuss about this car. PPG bought this car from GM and modified it into a pace car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy Posted May 18, 2008 Report Share Posted May 18, 2008 Rob is the king of posting up rare cool shit on this board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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