Q-Ball Posted October 28, 2006 Report Share Posted October 28, 2006 I went to the basic's and went to L67swap.com, but its god damn down. I'm really looking into getting this done. My mechanic lives about 30 min away from me and I need a good idea of how long it would take. Plus I'd need to know every single part I'd need to convert my 92 Grand prix with a 3800 Series II with Supercharger. If anyone has a list, or other sites to goto that would be great too. I need to compile everything by next weekend for my mechanic to read everything over. He has done swaps before, but mainly for his fiero. Basically, all I know is the 3800 Series II Engine with Supercharger 4T65E-HD Tranny Computer Is there anything else? I still need a complete source on a how to swap. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terryk2003 Posted October 28, 2006 Report Share Posted October 28, 2006 hmm...talk to brianteel...he is a member on here, and he runs l67swap.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q-Ball Posted October 29, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 29, 2006 Yeah, I've already talked to him on AIM. But I didnt know his site was down. Maybe he can post a few things on here. I've been to the site, but I didnt take a lot in since I wasnt planning on doing it till spring. But things might change, so I need all the info I can get. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Euro Posted October 29, 2006 Report Share Posted October 29, 2006 i wouldn't do the 4T60E trans stick with the 65HD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q-Ball Posted October 29, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 29, 2006 i wouldn't do the 4T60E trans stick with the 65HD Any reason? I'm just going from what I've read. What car has this 65HD tranny? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19Cutlass94 Posted October 29, 2006 Report Share Posted October 29, 2006 The 4T65-E will be just fine. I doubt youll need a HD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terryk2003 Posted October 29, 2006 Report Share Posted October 29, 2006 The 4T65-E will be just fine. I doubt youll need a HD. werd...you shouldnt need the HD unless you are planning on going turbo or supercharged! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitaloutsider Posted October 29, 2006 Report Share Posted October 29, 2006 The 4T65-E will be just fine. I doubt youll need a HD. werd...you shouldnt need the HD unless you are planning on going turbo or supercharged! 3800 Series II with Supercharger. Get the 4T65e-HD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terryk2003 Posted October 29, 2006 Report Share Posted October 29, 2006 The 4T65-E will be just fine. I doubt youll need a HD. werd...you shouldnt need the HD unless you are planning on going turbo or supercharged! 3800 Series II with Supercharger. Get the 4T65e-HD doohhh...didnt read that...all i read was this Basically, all I know is the 3800 Series II Engine 4T60E or 4t650E Tranny Computer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THe_DeTAiL3R Posted October 29, 2006 Report Share Posted October 29, 2006 Manticor(sp?) told me once that the 4T65e (non-HD) is easier to rebuild, and can be built up for as much power as you want. I suppose if you aren't gonna rebuild it, then the 4T65e-HD would be the best way to go, seeing as how it's what was behind the L67 in the GTP and GS to begin with... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdcutty Posted October 29, 2006 Report Share Posted October 29, 2006 His new website is www.motorswap.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitaloutsider Posted October 29, 2006 Report Share Posted October 29, 2006 Manticor(sp?) told me once that the 4T65e (non-HD) is easier to rebuild, and can be built up for as much power as you want. Um.. aside from the gearing, input shaft, output shaft, differential, torque converter, and flexplate, they're identical. They're 100% identical when it comes to disassembly/reassembly. Perhaps he was talking about the 4T60? Even then, there's very little difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q-Ball Posted October 30, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 30, 2006 His new website is www.motorswap.com It's actually http://motorswap.org/ But it's still down! But thanks for the help. So far we made a changed on the tranny. Gonna go for the HD. But I still need the info on how to swap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSI_MuNkY Posted October 30, 2006 Report Share Posted October 30, 2006 Complete L67 wiring harness... pretty sure L67swap.com said that the harness from the 98 Monte Carlo was the best to use, dunno why. Pretty sure you will need new axel shafts made up, the ones you have now won't go into the new tranny and the ones that go with the new tranny won't match up with your hubs... or something like that... You told me your mechanic says it will only take a couple days, but I find that very hard to believe, if he CAN do it in a couple days my car is next... As it stands right now when I do my swap I am budgeting to have another vehicle while the GP is off the road... Jamie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john99gtp Posted October 30, 2006 Report Share Posted October 30, 2006 Rough list i pulled off another, um, site 1988-1996 W-body cars 1. L67 Series II Supercharged Engine 2. 4T65E HD Transmission 3. 4T65E HD Transmission Lines 4. 4T65E HD Transmission Axles (shorted axles are recommended) 5. L67 Powertrain Control Module (PCM/Computer) Custom DHP recommended ** 6. L36 High-Pressure Power Steering Line 7. L36 Monte Carlo or Lumina harness (98-99)* 8. L67 Cruise Control Module & Cable (Optional) 9. L67 Stock or Custom/Aftermarket 97+ Style Exhaust Downpipe 10. L67 Coolant Hoses (New) 11. Walbro High-Pressure Fuel Pump 255 ltr/hr or greater (stock pump will work of low HP appilcations) 12. Upper and Lower Radiator Hoses 13. Heater core lines 14. Belts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terryk2003 Posted October 30, 2006 Report Share Posted October 30, 2006 Rough list i pulled off another, um, site 1988-1996 W-body cars 1. L67 Series II Supercharged Engine 2. 4T65E HD Transmission 3. 4T65E HD Transmission Lines 4. 4T65E HD Transmission Axles (shorted axles are recommended) 5. L67 Powertrain Control Module (PCM/Computer) Custom DHP recommended ** 6. L36 High-Pressure Power Steering Line 7. L36 Monte Carlo or Lumina harness (98-99)* 8. L67 Cruise Control Module & Cable (Optional) 9. L67 Stock or Custom/Aftermarket 97+ Style Exhaust Downpipe 10. L67 Coolant Hoses (New) 11. Walbro High-Pressure Fuel Pump 255 ltr/hr or greater (stock pump will work of low HP appilcations) 12. Upper and Lower Radiator Hoses 13. Heater core lines 14. Belts stop stealing info from the SOURCE!... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john99gtp Posted October 30, 2006 Report Share Posted October 30, 2006 lol, it wasnt hard to find the forums :willynilly: :willynilly: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THe_DeTAiL3R Posted October 31, 2006 Report Share Posted October 31, 2006 You told me your mechanic says it will only take a couple days, but I find that very hard to believe, if he CAN do it in a couple days my car is next... As it stands right now when I do my swap I am budgeting to have another vehicle while the GP is off the road... Jamie If it's that guy that did your struts.... I think it would be a couple months. I mean the guy didn't even have the front strut tool? WTF! Find someone else! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSI_MuNkY Posted October 31, 2006 Report Share Posted October 31, 2006 You told me your mechanic says it will only take a couple days, but I find that very hard to believe, if he CAN do it in a couple days my car is next... As it stands right now when I do my swap I am budgeting to have another vehicle while the GP is off the road... Jamie If it's that guy that did your struts.... I think it would be a couple months. I mean the guy didn't even have the front strut tool? WTF! Find someone else! He had to borrow my strut tool... Just cause he has done swaps on feiros means squat, there are soooo many kits that make swapping a feiro easy its not funny... On the other hand... most shops aren't willing to do swaps like this... Jamie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitaloutsider Posted October 31, 2006 Report Share Posted October 31, 2006 Drive down to Georgia. I'll do the swap for you. I hate shops and mechanics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSI_MuNkY Posted October 31, 2006 Report Share Posted October 31, 2006 Theres an interesting idea for a w-body.com meet... everyone get together to swap a motor... probably wouldn't be the first time... Jamie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q-Ball Posted October 31, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 31, 2006 Complete L67 wiring harness... pretty sure L67swap.com said that the harness from the 98 Monte Carlo was the best to use, dunno why. Pretty sure you will need new axel shafts made up, the ones you have now won't go into the new tranny and the ones that go with the new tranny won't match up with your hubs... or something like that... You told me your mechanic says it will only take a couple days, but I find that very hard to believe, if he CAN do it in a couple days my car is next... As it stands right now when I do my swap I am budgeting to have another vehicle while the GP is off the road... Jamie Yes, a few days. I'm calling him this Friday for more info. Rough list i pulled off another, um, site 1988-1996 W-body cars 1. L67 Series II Supercharged Engine 2. 4T65E HD Transmission 3. 4T65E HD Transmission Lines 4. 4T65E HD Transmission Axles (shorted axles are recommended) 5. L67 Powertrain Control Module (PCM/Computer) Custom DHP recommended ** 6. L36 High-Pressure Power Steering Line 7. L36 Monte Carlo or Lumina harness (98-99)* 8. L67 Cruise Control Module & Cable (Optional) 9. L67 Stock or Custom/Aftermarket 97+ Style Exhaust Downpipe 10. L67 Coolant Hoses (New) 11. Walbro High-Pressure Fuel Pump 255 ltr/hr or greater (stock pump will work of low HP appilcations) 12. Upper and Lower Radiator Hoses 13. Heater core lines 14. Belts Wow thats a big list. and where did you find this from? Rough list i pulled off another, um, site 1988-1996 W-body cars 1. L67 Series II Supercharged Engine 2. 4T65E HD Transmission 3. 4T65E HD Transmission Lines 4. 4T65E HD Transmission Axles (shorted axles are recommended) 5. L67 Powertrain Control Module (PCM/Computer) Custom DHP recommended ** 6. L36 High-Pressure Power Steering Line 7. L36 Monte Carlo or Lumina harness (98-99)* 8. L67 Cruise Control Module & Cable (Optional) 9. L67 Stock or Custom/Aftermarket 97+ Style Exhaust Downpipe 10. L67 Coolant Hoses (New) 11. Walbro High-Pressure Fuel Pump 255 ltr/hr or greater (stock pump will work of low HP appilcations) 12. Upper and Lower Radiator Hoses 13. Heater core lines 14. Belts stop stealing info from the SOURCE!... He took it from you? lol, it wasnt hard to find the forums :willynilly: :willynilly: Well, I need a whole print out for the guy doing it. You told me your mechanic says it will only take a couple days, but I find that very hard to believe, if he CAN do it in a couple days my car is next... As it stands right now when I do my swap I am budgeting to have another vehicle while the GP is off the road... Jamie If it's that guy that did your struts.... I think it would be a couple months. I mean the guy didn't even have the front strut tool? WTF! Find someone else! Everyone is across the boarder. Compared to only a 30 min drive away so far. You told me your mechanic says it will only take a couple days, but I find that very hard to believe, if he CAN do it in a couple days my car is next... As it stands right now when I do my swap I am budgeting to have another vehicle while the GP is off the road... Jamie If it's that guy that did your struts.... I think it would be a couple months. I mean the guy didn't even have the front strut tool? WTF! Find someone else! He had to borrow my strut tool... Just cause he has done swaps on feiros means squat, there are soooo many kits that make swapping a feiro easy its not funny... On the other hand... most shops aren't willing to do swaps like this... Jamie Yeah and if they did, big money. Drive down to Georgia. I'll do the swap for you. I hate shops and mechanics. Ha, I wish I could. Find me everything I need and we'll talk. Theres an interesting idea for a w-body.com meet... everyone get together to swap a motor... probably wouldn't be the first time... Jamie Yes! I will buy the beer for everyone! New W-Body meet in London Ontario. Come one, come all! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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