cizin Posted August 14, 2005 Report Share Posted August 14, 2005 I have a 3100 in my 95 Lumina and have pleny of room to get them without rocking the engine. So I think. I did the front 3 and the boots were very tight. When I moved to the back ones, I tuggen and tugged. The wires are fine, I kinda wanted to keep them. I can't seem to get them to budge. I even borrowed my neighbor's "Spark Plug Wire Removal Tool". I get that thing latched on and they still won't budge. Any suggestions? Will I hurt my engine if I drive with 3 rapid fires upfront and 3 old stadard delcos in the back? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THe_DeTAiL3R Posted August 14, 2005 Report Share Posted August 14, 2005 Change all your plugs. If you break the rear wires then replace them all. It's just the right way to do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cizin Posted August 14, 2005 Author Report Share Posted August 14, 2005 OK well at this point after about 5 hours of working on it, scraping my hands up, and the heat, I just want them off anyway I can. I am about to get a knife out and cut the sobs off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THe_DeTAiL3R Posted August 14, 2005 Report Share Posted August 14, 2005 If you can't get them off then get someone bigger to do it.. lol The worst that can happen is the metal piece will tear off the boot and stay on the plug.. not a big deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robby1870 Posted August 14, 2005 Report Share Posted August 14, 2005 Ive never had a problem getting them off. Just twist and pull. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiscoStudd Posted August 14, 2005 Report Share Posted August 14, 2005 The connectors are more than likely rusted to the plugs. You won't be able to save the wires if they're that difficult to remove. Just tug hard on each wire to strip it off from the connector, then pull off the boot and take a pliers to the connector to remove it from the plug. Be sure to squirt some Dielectric Grease inside the new plug wires' boots so you can easily remove them the next time you change the plugs ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
94cutlatized Posted August 15, 2005 Report Share Posted August 15, 2005 It happened to me too, i just pulled really hard until the wire ripped off and the metal piece was still in the saprk plug. Then i just took off the spark plug like any other with the metal piece in it. O and yeah, Replace ur wires. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigershark Posted August 15, 2005 Report Share Posted August 15, 2005 yeah ... just pull on them wires .. You should replace your wires anyway... sounds like they been on the motherfu... i mean car.. for a lil too long. and don't forget the grease when you put the new ones back on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cizin Posted August 15, 2005 Author Report Share Posted August 15, 2005 Well the wires came off last night but there is a much bigger problem than wires. I have what I think is a crossthreaded plug in #1. I took it to the dealer today to see what they could do. The plugs were replaced by a dealer about 50k ago so my father is seeing what he can do about that. They are going to call me back once they get the plug out but it looks like they will have to take the head off. I am haveing such bad luck the past few days I am just going to cry. I am suppose to go on this trip thurs but who knows now. I was told $1000+ if they have to take the head off... Well I will keep u updated but this sux. Ohh yea, I was putting Delco rapid fires in the car and now they will remove them cuz they say it will not work with my car. There went $30 down the drain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitaloutsider Posted August 15, 2005 Report Share Posted August 15, 2005 Ohh yea, I was putting Delco rapid fires in the car and now they will remove them cuz they say it will not work with my car. There went $30 down the drain. Uh.. why won't the RapidFire's work? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cizin Posted August 15, 2005 Author Report Share Posted August 15, 2005 I have no clue. The dealership told me they won't work on my car or warrenty and of the work unless I put plugs that were for my car in it. I am having them save the 5 plugs that are in there so I can put them in later. They are full of shit and just trying to bend me over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THe_DeTAiL3R Posted August 15, 2005 Report Share Posted August 15, 2005 They probably told you that you must use AC Delco anything else is bad... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiscoStudd Posted August 15, 2005 Report Share Posted August 15, 2005 Man, for a thousand bucks you could swap in a low mileage boneyard 3400. I wonder how badly the spark plug was cross threaded? I cross threaded a spark plug in my old 93 Cavalier, and I was able to snug a new plug in there and it ran fine (I even changed it out again after 20k or so, and the next plug I put in there held just fine.) I'd try to see if you can thread a new spark plug in there, and if it wiggles around or not. If it's a good snug fit, then drive around for a few days, as the heating/cooling of the aluminum head should "fuse" the plug in the hole, and you should be just fine... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cizin Posted August 15, 2005 Author Report Share Posted August 15, 2005 They probably told you that you must use AC Delco anything else is bad... Rapid Fires are ACDelco Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cizin Posted August 15, 2005 Author Report Share Posted August 15, 2005 Well my BUTT hurts! Ok all done $353.12. The car runs and will take me on the trip. This service bullitin that they told me existed, doesn't. Basically the only plugs listed under my VIN where the regular and platnum. That is why they couldn't put rapid fires in my car. After paying and then speaking to the service manager the truth finally came out. No problem, my other plugs will go back to the store. Hopefully before I need new plugs again, I will have a L67! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GP1138 Posted August 15, 2005 Report Share Posted August 15, 2005 WTF? Why were platinum plugs listed for your car? It's highly recommended NOT to use platinum plugs, as our cars use a waste spark ignition system and platinums wear out rather quickly because of that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cizin Posted August 15, 2005 Author Report Share Posted August 15, 2005 nope went with the iridium(sp?). Not paying liek $8 a plug, screw that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cutlassdude96 Posted August 16, 2005 Report Share Posted August 16, 2005 WTF? Why were platinum plugs listed for your car? It's highly recommended NOT to use platinum plugs, as our cars use a waste spark ignition system and platinums wear out rather quickly because of that. platinum plugs where OEM in my car nad now im running raipidfires in it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitaloutsider Posted August 16, 2005 Report Share Posted August 16, 2005 You CAN run rapidfires in your 3100. I ran them in my 3.1 forever, and they're NOT platinum plugs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gp90se Posted August 16, 2005 Report Share Posted August 16, 2005 okey, not 2 hijack but wtf is the difference between a regular delco and a rapidfire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cutlassdude96 Posted August 16, 2005 Report Share Posted August 16, 2005 http://www.acdelco.com/html/pi_plugs_rap_main.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GP1138 Posted August 16, 2005 Report Share Posted August 16, 2005 There's no way platinums are OEM. They're probably the least efficient plug you could use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cutlassdude96 Posted August 17, 2005 Report Share Posted August 17, 2005 AC Delco Platinums were Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
streetdreams Posted August 18, 2005 Report Share Posted August 18, 2005 After paying and then speaking to the service manager the truth finally came out lol notice you had to pay before the truth came out?? bad luck happens to all of us but man that was gut wrenching. glad your heads are okay. good luck on your trip 8) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikehutton Posted November 27, 2010 Report Share Posted November 27, 2010 (edited) That's a major headache I think you should consider bringing you car to a pro, they might solve the problem removing the Spark Plug Wire and bolt in a new one. Edited November 30, 2010 by mikehutton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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