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Bake82
repinned harness or an adaptor?

 

If its a repinned harness I'll just take the plug with 6" + of wire

 

How soon are you thinking?

 

 

Repinned harness. Originally had the standard electronic dash with fuel, speed and odometer.

 

Probably 2-3 weeks? I have the parts car interior harness stripped complete and will be pulling the motor hopefully this weekend along with all associated wiring in the engine bar and any remaining pieces. By the time I get to my car and tearing it apart, we're probably looking 2-3 weeks.

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Crazy K

i have both the 90 and 94 connects with 12 inches of wire lying around... if you need em, But I know shipping is a beotch.

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GOT2B GM

shipping shouldn't be bad for items that small, quote to N2E 3V5 please.

 

How was Dan making adaptors? (getting the plug opposite to the 94 harness?)

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Crazy K
shipping shouldn't be bad for items that small, quote to N2E 3V5 please.

 

How was Dan making adaptors? (getting the plug opposite to the 94 harness?)

 

I was referring to how long they might take to arrive....

 

He hacked up clusters to get the opposite plug. If you can solder yourself, you could do a better, easier and cheaper job.

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GOT2B GM

Hmm I do have a 250,000 km 93 cluster I will never use..........

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rockfangd
No, I didn't.

 

Rockfangd and Psych0matt had done it. :thumbsup:

I sure did. I had 0 regrets, and yes you have to change the oil pressure switch with the sender. I have lots of pics and info.pm me and I will share all my knowledge:thumbsup:

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GnatGoSplat

I never added UB3 to mine. I was told it washes out in the sun, and I decided whoever it was that said it was probably right as I can imagine it happening. I decided a convertible shouldn't have a dash that washes out in the sun (despite never having completely fixed my top so it was an irrelevant concern, but whatever).

 

I did add DIS to mine, it works great and looks great! HUD too, though mine had the connector so that was crazy easy.

 

This is just my personal opinion, but if I were buying a used car, I'd rather it were repinned instead of cut & spliced. Repinned can be fully restored to 100% OEM stock (given a little manual labor) while cut & spliced cannot. When I buy a used car, I'm a sucker for it having been unmolested. That's just me, I may very well be the only one that cares about that.

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Psych0matt

I agree with Shawn, I liked the repinning idea better. Ken always tried to talk me into adding a second plug, but I had already got the UB3 in and working 100%. I never had the washout problem in the sunlight though :dunno:

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Addicted to eaton
Manic, Can you PM me 2003 GPGT Radio single disc pinouts? I still dont know which wire goes to my HUD

 

its A5 DK GRN on the Hud, and Dark green on the back of the radio IIRC same one for SWRC

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AL

FML, Im color blind to green... Is it the ONLY green wire on the back of the radio? I have it marked on the HUD which one it is but never knew which one on the back of the radio

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rjOlds

I know this has been dormant for a while, but before I put my digital cluster in, from reading this it would seem that the Check Gauges indication on the HUD is lost as there is no output from the digital cluster to that wire for the HUD. Did I miss something or is that correct? If it is disabled, I would want to consider adding in a small circuit to provide that functionality as without it, the HUD becomes even more of novelty as you still would have to look down occasionally to make sure your alt hasn't died, you are not overheating, out of gas, etc.

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GOT2B GM

I still have yet to do this but it WILL happen.

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rjOlds

I know this has been dormant for a while, but before I put my digital cluster in, from reading this it would seem that the Check Gauges indication on the HUD is lost as there is no output from the digital cluster to that wire for the HUD. Did I miss something or is that correct? If it is disabled, I would want to consider adding in a small circuit to provide that functionality as without it, the HUD becomes even more of novelty as you still would have to look down occasionally to make sure your alt hasn't died, you are not overheating, out of gas, etc.

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GnatGoSplat
I know this has been dormant for a while, but before I put my digital cluster in, from reading this it would seem that the Check Gauges indication on the HUD is lost as there is no output from the digital cluster to that wire for the HUD. Did I miss something or is that correct? If it is disabled, I would want to consider adding in a small circuit to provide that functionality as without it, the HUD becomes even more of novelty as you still would have to look down occasionally to make sure your alt hasn't died, you are not overheating, out of gas, etc.

 

Yes, I believe that's correct. It's been many, many years since I played with it, but the HUD digital clusters had an extra little circuit board to drive the low fuel icon. My memory is very hazy, but I don't think the original HUD from 88-90 on the Cutlass had a "CHECK GAUGES" indicator, only low fuel, so even with that little extra circuit, it would only warn you of low fuel. Now if I have said anything in the past on old posts that contradicts this, then what I said in the past is correct as I'm going by very hazy memory.

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rjOlds

Thanks Shawn. I'll have to check the feasibility, but I think I would want Check Gauges to show in the HUD for any improper condition that the gauges would indicate. That would include high temp, low/high oil pressure, low fuel and low/high voltage. If I have to effectively decode the signals to do that, then it would also be possible to flash Check Gauges in the HUD for a seriously out of whack readings. So it would come on when a reading is abnormal, and flash when we get to a really bad situation.

 

Now I just have to find the time for that since I am swamped with lots of stuff right now and only a small part of it is related to my car, although I wish it were the other way around. The circuit shouldn't be that complicated though.

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89GP_SE

so I haven't been on here in two years but, I remember when I did this in the alumina. Since you already have the ub3 analogs in the car now all you should have 2 do is re-pin the plug. Trying to splice the plug is a pain and there is not much room back there. Just run the orange wire down to aldl

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rjOlds

If I didn't have the HUD I would agree that re-pinning would be fine, but I want the Check Gauges indicator in the HUD to work and the digital UB3 does not have a signal output for that. This is why I am considering adding the extra circuit to enable this.

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rjOlds

There is an SES wire going in to the cluster and a Check Gauges for the HUD coming out. The SES wire isn't appropriate and the analogue gauges HUD output is not duplicated on the digital gauges. That is why I figure I need to make this extra bit up if I want Check Gauges to do anything after the digital install. If it works as I envision it, the Check Gauges in the HUD will be more functional than the analog unit's as I was going to make it obnoxious (flashing) if anything got too out of whack. Assuming I get it right, the same circuit would also work on the analogue setup as well. It would still require access to the relevant signals and the HUD pin would have to disconnected from the cluster as well (and plugged into the circuit).

 

Anyway, if and when I get the time to play with this further I will post more details of what I have done.

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Starflare5
its A5 DK GRN on the Hud, and Dark green on the back of the radio IIRC same one for SWRC

 

Um, Dark Green on HUD and Dash Cluster = ECM/Vehicle Speed Sensor. Dark Green on radio = Entertainment and Comfort Data Bus. 2 completely different signals. For Speed Controlled Volume, the vehicle speed sensor signal was translated through the Body Control Module and sent to the radio via the E&C (dark green wire) or the Class 2 (dark purple wire) data bus. Steering wheel controls was also sent to the BCM as well to be translated.

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1994RedVert

Does anyone have a digi cluster with the adapter already made that they want to sell? I have a 1994 cutlass supreme convertible and new to the forum. But, am trying to do some cool mods.

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94 olds vert
Does anyone have a digi cluster with the adapter already made that they want to sell? I have a 1994 cutlass supreme convertible and new to the forum. But, am trying to do some cool mods.

 

It's not that hard to make one. I've made my own and it's not the prettiest thing, but it works great. I would encourage you to make your own. It's really not hard to do. Plus there is tons of info on the site.

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