PCGUY112887 Posted August 27, 2009 Report Share Posted August 27, 2009 This is my GP with my Intrax springs installed on the front with ~2 year old KYB struts and mounts in the front. I noticed for some reason, with even tire pressure, the front drivers wheel dips slightly into the fender well. You can barely get a straight finger on top of the tire between the fenderwell and tire. If I go to the pass front side, I can stick my entire finger on top of the tire between the fenderwell and tire. It seems that my drivers side is sitting lower with no weight in the car. Ideas? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1990lumina Posted August 27, 2009 Report Share Posted August 27, 2009 Is this after driving the vehicle and settling the suspension? Are the springs installed correctly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCGUY112887 Posted August 27, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 27, 2009 Yes this is after the car has been drivin, I don't know how long it's been like this but it doesn't really seem to change when parked. I had my mechanic install my springs and struts/mounts all at the same time, he's really good so I trust their installed correctly. I plan on pulling the low side tire and taking a peek around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GP4U2NV Posted August 27, 2009 Report Share Posted August 27, 2009 Spring settle can take up to 250 miles before they are "settled". Some are sooner but, I have installed a lot of lowering springs (excess of 40 sets) and have never read any taking more than 250 miles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCGUY112887 Posted August 28, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 28, 2009 This isn't an issue of settling springs, they have been on my car which is my DD for 2 years now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mra32 Posted August 28, 2009 Report Share Posted August 28, 2009 I think mine are like this. i dont really worry about it too much. I think it may be due to the fact that the lovering springs have a different ending point relative to the starting point. What I mean is that if you were to look down on the stock spring and lowering spring, and put it so the bottom of the springs started at 12:00, the tops would not end at the same spot, one might end at 3 and the other 6. Tough to explain what I mean. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dohc v6 Posted August 28, 2009 Report Share Posted August 28, 2009 This is because your shocks are blown. Happens all the time with KYB or GAB shocks. The shocks can not take a drop more than 1.2" so anything over that the valving inside the shock goes to crap and you get uneven height. Exactly why I am switching to Koni, never have to worry about that. Mark-OEm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mra32 Posted August 28, 2009 Report Share Posted August 28, 2009 i noticed mine sitting like this from the moment i drove the car outside the garage after installing the springs. The shocks may have gone through 5 low speed cycles under the new springs and checked out ok before i installed them. I do not think my shocks were blown. They may be now, car rides like crap. Oh well. If i come into a spare $120 or so i'll replace them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dohc v6 Posted August 28, 2009 Report Share Posted August 28, 2009 i noticed mine sitting like this from the moment i drove the car outside the garage after installing the springs. The shocks may have gone through 5 low speed cycles under the new springs and checked out ok before i installed them. I do not think my shocks were blown. They may be now, car rides like crap. Oh well. If i come into a spare $120 or so i'll replace them. There you go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCGUY112887 Posted August 28, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 28, 2009 This is because your shocks are blown. Happens all the time with KYB or GAB shocks. The shocks can not take a drop more than 1.2" so anything over that the valving inside the shock goes to crap and you get uneven height. Exactly why I am switching to Koni, never have to worry about that. Mark-OEm I feared this, what other struts can I use (that are actually made for my car) that have a less chance of blowing from lowering? Koni's would be nice if they were made for me. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dohc v6 Posted August 29, 2009 Report Share Posted August 29, 2009 We can get konis, all 4 for $750 shipped to your door. Yeah there not $300 like KYB's but they can handle ANY drop and are adjustable. Mark-OEm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCGUY112887 Posted August 29, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 29, 2009 Holy shit $750? KYB's aren't even near $300 FYI. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slick Posted August 29, 2009 Report Share Posted August 29, 2009 About almost EVERY GM vehicle I know sits uneven. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AWeb80 Posted August 29, 2009 Report Share Posted August 29, 2009 I bet your shocks aren't blown.... I have ~20k miles on my front KYB's and they still ride great and don't bounce more then two times over bumps. I do know that my pass side front B4U is about a finger higher from the tire than the drivers side.... and everything up front is new....I just chalk it up to a B4U that isn't perfect or just a normal GM car. It drives straight and looks fine....just my uber picky eye can see it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1990lumina Posted August 29, 2009 Report Share Posted August 29, 2009 Springs are what hold the weight of the vehicle, blown shoocks or not it should still sit the same, no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCGUY112887 Posted August 29, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 29, 2009 I bet your shocks aren't blown.... I have ~20k miles on my front KYB's and they still ride great and don't bounce more then two times over bumps. I do know that my pass side front B4U is about a finger higher from the tire than the drivers side.... and everything up front is new....I just chalk it up to a B4U that isn't perfect or just a normal GM car. It drives straight and looks fine....just my uber picky eye can see it. Mine does not bounce much at all, and a finger higher is exactly how I would describe it on the pass side. I will get some pictures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mra32 Posted August 30, 2009 Report Share Posted August 30, 2009 thats also how i would describe mine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCGUY112887 Posted August 30, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 30, 2009 Best pictures I can snap, kind of hard to get a picture of since angles can make it look different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AWeb80 Posted August 30, 2009 Report Share Posted August 30, 2009 looks pretty typical could be the body, B4U, or frame...who knows Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dohc v6 Posted August 31, 2009 Report Share Posted August 31, 2009 Ahh, what do I know, I just make custom suspension parts for a living. Mark-OEM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mra32 Posted September 1, 2009 Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 a simple way to see how hard an old vs. new shock pushes up on your car is to take both and put a scale on top of it and support the feet on scale equally (square piece of plywood or something) as push down till about where the shock would be sitting in your car. read the scale. This is how much your shock is pushing up. If anyone has new & old shocks this would be a good gauge to settle the debate of shocks contributing to ride height. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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