jman093 Posted April 14, 2009 Report Share Posted April 14, 2009 L36 cars only. Seems like an unlikely scenario as oil is hardly flammable, but recalled nonetheless. Recall will be activated next month. http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/recalls/results.cfm?rcl_id=09V116&searchtype=quicksearch&summary=true&refurl=email Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Posted April 14, 2009 Report Share Posted April 14, 2009 WTH!! this is the same problem as the L67's, but now they are replacing plug wire retainers?! ridiculous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AL Posted April 14, 2009 Report Share Posted April 14, 2009 So there not gonna fix the oil leak? Good one GM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GP1138 Posted April 14, 2009 Report Share Posted April 14, 2009 Seriously??? What horseshit. They could at least fix the GD leak. I don't know if our L36 is leaking but I'd be pissed if it was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jman093 Posted April 14, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 14, 2009 This is from the NHTSA. The clips are all that the NHTSA is requiring as that is all that is required to stop any fire. GM has not released their version of the TSB to dealers. Like said, this is supposed to happen next month. It may well contain instruction to inspect for leaking oil and repair if necessary. Won't know until then, but the NHTSA is not requiring it. Since all Oldsmobiles are no longer under warranty, we no longer do GM warranty and recall work at my dealer, but what we do for Chrysler it seems like 90% of the bulletins we perform instruct to perform some repair (in this case the clips) and also look for evidence of a particular cause or consequence of this recall, and repair it too if found (in this case it would be the oil leaks) so it may very well happen, especially if it was repaired on L67's. I wouldn't get my hopes up, but it wouldn't be surprising either if it gets covered. EDIT: Looking at the NHTSA site on the L67 recall, the clips/retainers were all that were required on that recall as well by the NHTSA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jake91 Posted April 14, 2009 Report Share Posted April 14, 2009 wow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88red4cyl Posted April 14, 2009 Report Share Posted April 14, 2009 I hope they fix the damn oil leaks... I noticed a few months ago that mine has started to leak a bit... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy Posted April 14, 2009 Report Share Posted April 14, 2009 the bulletins we perform instruct to perform some repair (in this case the clips) and also look for evidence of a particular cause or consequence of this recall, and repair it too if found (in this case it would be the oil leaks) so it may very well happen, especially if it was repaired on L67's. I wouldn't get my hopes up, but it wouldn't be surprising either if it gets covered. The gaskets were specifically recalled on the L67s so I can't imagine that the dealer would do that repair too if only the clips are recalled on these Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jman093 Posted April 14, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 14, 2009 The gaskets were specifically recalled on the L67s so I can't imagine that the dealer would do that repair too if only the clips are recalled on these Ok I didn't know it was a mandatory part of the L67 recall, but nonetheless they weren't required by the NHTSA to change the gaskets as well on it. GM goodwilled the gasekts as a part of the recall for customer satisfaction. So all I'm saying is that GM may do this again with the L36's. What I posted is the NHTSA release that a recall is going to happen and the minimum of what GM will do. Just have to wait and see what GM does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IRONDOG442 Posted April 14, 2009 Report Share Posted April 14, 2009 FTR I have personally seen this leak actually cause a fire on the top of a 3800 SII exhaust manifold and just because a liquid isn't classified as "flammable" under DOT's (Department of Transportation) regulations which is defined as a liquid with a Flash point >=73F<=141F doesn't mean it can't spontaneously combust, ever hear of an oil burning stove? Oil will catch fire if hot enough and normal exhaust manifold operating temperatures are between 600°-800° Trust me GM doesn't recall shit unless its necessary! They should replace the fucking gasket not redesign the spark plug looms !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian P Posted April 14, 2009 Report Share Posted April 14, 2009 but it'll just burn out now, not spread. It's like a self cleaning oven!!! TOOT TOOOOOOOOOOOT!!!! :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1990lumina Posted April 14, 2009 Report Share Posted April 14, 2009 ...And this is why I don't own a GM anymore.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THe_DeTAiL3R Posted April 14, 2009 Report Share Posted April 14, 2009 So if me engine isn't leaking any oil, should I have some tech fucking around with my car? Any REAL benefit? And how long do you have to get the recall done? Can I wait 5yrs to see if it's gonna leak? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pontiacmaniac94 Posted April 14, 2009 Report Share Posted April 14, 2009 i have seen my fair share of L36 up at the yard that have been BBQed before, so i guess it was just a matter of time...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Euro Posted April 14, 2009 Report Share Posted April 14, 2009 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carkhz316 Posted April 14, 2009 Report Share Posted April 14, 2009 Agreed X42308423904 Instead of burning it onboard, let's just funnel it on to the ground. OOOh boy, that's a great thing for tree huggers. You're damned it you do and damned if you don't. :facepalm: :facepalm: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoomZoomFan Posted April 14, 2009 Report Share Posted April 14, 2009 ...And this is why I don't own a GM anymore.. And why my next car won't be a GM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breakdown Posted April 14, 2009 Report Share Posted April 14, 2009 ...And this is why I don't own a GM anymore.. And why my next car won't be a GM. The recall isn't until May, so tell your friend not to take his car in until the recall is issued, they probably won't fix it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoomZoomFan Posted April 14, 2009 Report Share Posted April 14, 2009 He'll probably wait that long anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5speedz34 Posted April 14, 2009 Report Share Posted April 14, 2009 Its really stupid that they won't replace the gaskets. I bet GM's thinking is that the scenario is rather slim so why even bother? I'm still not convinced that the oil leaking out of the valve cover under heavy braking is the cause for engine fires. It has to be something else. We've seen way to many of these for it to be something as simple as that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runt Posted April 14, 2009 Report Share Posted April 14, 2009 I love how they say in the article that there have not been any reported fires because of this....yet....we see them all the time! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5speedz34 Posted April 14, 2009 Report Share Posted April 14, 2009 I love how they say in the article that there have not been any reported fires because of this....yet....we see them all the time! They probably don't make it back to GM. Makes you wonder though, how can you have a recall without some sort of prior events? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jman093 Posted April 15, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 15, 2009 ...And this is why I don't own a GM anymore.. And why my next car won't be a GM. Like GM is the only company that recalls vehicles. The almighty Toyota recalled more vehicles than they actually sold back in 2007. Everybody has recalls for fires and stuff. Our Nissan store next door was doing a bunch of recalls on the new Altimas a year or so ago becuase they going up in flames. Ford recalled their new diesel Superduty's a couple years ago because the regeneration process caused it to blow flames out the tailpipe and start fires and the list goes on. Its really stupid that they won't replace the gaskets. I bet GM's thinking is that the scenario is rather slim so why even bother? You didn't bother to read my posts. GM hasn't said they are only replacing the plug retainers. The NHTSA is only making them replace the retainer, but GM may also replace the gasket, just like they did on L67's. GM release for the recall isn't out until May. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5speedz34 Posted April 15, 2009 Report Share Posted April 15, 2009 Right......may being the key word. If the past is any indication to the future the gasket won't get replaced. The L67 recall, called for the gasket right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Euro Posted April 15, 2009 Report Share Posted April 15, 2009 ...And this is why I don't own a GM anymore.. And why my next car won't be a GM. You guys act like GM cars are the absolute worst Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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