Aaron Posted September 24, 2003 Report Share Posted September 24, 2003 yep. the motor definately has potential, there is no doubt about that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbostewhite Posted September 24, 2003 Report Share Posted September 24, 2003 okay, i have a runner(3.4 dohc) and i wanna stuf it in my beretta indy.OUCH!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbostewhite Posted September 24, 2003 Report Share Posted September 24, 2003 also, is this block the same as 3.1 (re: transaxle applications)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron Posted September 24, 2003 Report Share Posted September 24, 2003 a 3.4 in a beretta will not work without cutting the firewall becuz of how wide our motor is. it has been attempted numerous times, every tiem the guys get tired of going wacko with a hacksaw, and just do a 3.8 SC swap. which works much better. ESSENTIALLY, the lower half of the 3.4 is a 3.1, but some things are different. im not exactly sure what, but i do know that the 3.4 used more heavy duty stuff, up to and including trannys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
91GranSport Posted September 27, 2003 Report Share Posted September 27, 2003 Ahhh, yes, now I recall your post from earlier. I do remember reading an article in High Performance Pontiac where it shows a '93 Grand Prix GTP that put more power to the ground than a Gen2 Grand Prix GT with the 3800 Series II. However, an L67 is far more powerful than the L36 so I'm sure you must have more mods than that or else the other drivers have poor skills. Given your 5-speed must also make a major difference, mated to the 3.4L Twin Cam. I won't underestimate that though, I've never driven the 3.4L Twin Cam with the Getrag 282/284 but I've heard stories... i have a redzmonte COld air intake and exhaust, FFP UD pulley and chip, and magnecore 8.5mm wires. so basically very lightly modded. im pretty sure i can pull a 14.78 at 92.68 at the track as for that being altitude adjusted(we were at 1200ft), it turns down to a high 14.5 or a low 14.6, cant remember. By pure slips, that is faster than a 97-02 GTP. and then consider i only race the L67s from rolling starts, where i have every advantage in the world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
91GranSport Posted September 27, 2003 Report Share Posted September 27, 2003 Without adding hardware? Simple, take the existing hardware and make it better. Work on the cylinder heads, intake and exhaust manifolds, valves and such and perhaps you can bring out more power. However, if you truly want more power you will have to either add or replace the existing hardware. Such as forged aluminum pistons, lightweight chromoly connecting rods, high lift camshafts, etc. Anyone know how to tweak those horsies and torque out of the 3.4? Without adding any hardware...like cam or messing with the heads? Has to be pretty simple, if GM originally made the engine THAT strong, doncha think?Maybe a simple chip/intake/exhaust combo? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timbit_69 Posted September 27, 2003 Report Share Posted September 27, 2003 The Z06 is only available in a 6-speed. ok ???? i have driven a Z06 Corvette auto that my aunt has and after feeling the ballcrushing acceleration i highly doubt that one of out cars can beat one. yea it's a auto but my uncle has the 6-speed( i like that alot better!!!). Well then she must have an immitation she bought it at Mac Master here in london, On what could it be then?????? i am very sure that it is a Z06, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian P Posted September 27, 2003 Report Share Posted September 27, 2003 I like how every fucking thread turns into a story about Aaron racing someone. Jesus fucking Christ.........shut the hell up!!!! Robby W3rd!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111 Robby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest RedCutlassSL Posted September 27, 2003 Report Share Posted September 27, 2003 yeah aaron, shut the fuck up, i wouldn't be surprised if a dump truck beat you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robby1870 Posted September 27, 2003 Report Share Posted September 27, 2003 I like how every fucking thread turns into a story about Aaron racing someone. Jesus fucking Christ.........shut the hell up!!!! Robby W3rd!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111 Robby Ass..................... Brian P (aka Brian, I eat a lot of cock, P) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron Posted September 28, 2003 Report Share Posted September 28, 2003 yeah aaron, shut the fuck up, i wouldn't be surprised if a dump truck beat you probly, cuz id be too busy kicking your ass to push. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxXRandyyXxx Posted September 28, 2003 Report Share Posted September 28, 2003 i'm sorry to say this but aaron you try and make yourself sound like a funny car driver by all these race stories.i really dont think you'd be able to keep up with any of these cars you say you do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron Posted September 29, 2003 Report Share Posted September 29, 2003 yah, cuz i just made up my 1/4mi time. really id id. i drugged Luke, John, and the Admin of this site, and the other 10 people there into believing that they were reading 14.78, instead of 16.78, which is what i ran in pueblo. thats it, right? Asshole, :read: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxXRandyyXxx Posted September 29, 2003 Report Share Posted September 29, 2003 i'm truely happy for you but i dont think there is a need for you to brag every post about your car and how fast you are Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian P Posted September 29, 2003 Report Share Posted September 29, 2003 we've discussed this months ago and shit doesnt change. Fuck it, ignore him and he'll eventually shut it up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron Posted September 29, 2003 Report Share Posted September 29, 2003 no he just said that my car cant beat those things, essentially that my 1/4mi trap time lies. and that just irritates me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bumpin_z Posted September 29, 2003 Report Share Posted September 29, 2003 detuned/redesigned to make 215HP so trannys didnt blow. wrong. a 285hp Lumina would slap a 285hp corvette, and face it, GM didnt want a Lumina to bitch slap its pride and joy corvette. This IMO and several others is why the GN met it's demise so early in it's life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbostewhite Posted September 30, 2003 Report Share Posted September 30, 2003 ...and let's not forget the best turbos the general ever made. ..Syclone and Typhoon. Talk about spanking a Corvette. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron Posted September 30, 2003 Report Share Posted September 30, 2003 i wouldnt say they would spank a vette, but theyd run clsoe. 285hp with a 4 speed auto makes for low to flat 14s, and my dads 1994 Z28, LT1 6-speed runs a 13.9 stock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbostewhite Posted September 30, 2003 Report Share Posted September 30, 2003 vettes don't have all wheel drive, either...syclones are (were) the fastest production US vehicles in 1991. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron Posted September 30, 2003 Report Share Posted September 30, 2003 oh im pretty sure a ZR1 Corvette wouldnt have a problem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbostewhite Posted September 30, 2003 Report Share Posted September 30, 2003 research the stats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timg Posted September 30, 2003 Report Share Posted September 30, 2003 Aaron is right, the ZR1 was faster and quicker than the Syclone, but not by much. The ZR1's seemed to average about 13.0@110 mph in the quarter and the Syclones seem to average about 5 seconds to 60 and mid 13's at about 100 mph in the quarter. Syclone Claims from GMC 0-60 4.6 1/4 mile 13.4 @ 99.8 mph Syclone (Popular Hot Rodding) 0-60 5.0 seconds 1/4 mile 13.16@100 mph Syclone (Car and Driver) 0-60 5.3 seconds 1/4 mile 14.1@93 mph Syclone (Car Craft) 0-60 5.3 seconds 1/4 mile 14.1@94.6 mph Syclone (Autoweek) 0-60 5.2 seconds 1/4 mile 14.2 @ 97 mph 1991 Corvette ZR1 (Car and Driver) 0-60 4.9 seconds 1/4 mile 13.2 @ 108 mph For more ZR-1 magazine test #'s, go to this site. The 1991 listed above is actually slower than most of the earlier ones listed! http://www.zr1.net/ZR1_performance.html For more Syclone magazine test #'s, go to this site. http://www.sportmachines.com/media.php Tim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron Posted October 1, 2003 Report Share Posted October 1, 2003 ah. MT got a 1994 ZR1 to a 12.51, and the Z06 to a flat 12.4. both have 405hp, with the ZR1 having a 32v V8. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrandPrix34 Posted October 1, 2003 Report Share Posted October 1, 2003 Syclone Comparison MODEL 0-60MPH (sec.) ¼-MILE (sec./mph) CHEVROLET CORVETTE ZR-1 4.7 13.1/110.0 GMC SYCLONE 4.9 13.6/ 98.6 CHEVROLET CORVETTE L98 COUPE 5.3 13.9/ 99.0 ACURA NSX 5.4 14.2/ 95.8 PORSCHE CARRERA 4 5.5 13.9/100.4 LOTUS ESPRIT TURBO 5.8 14.4/ 95.3 CHEVROLET CAMARO IROC-Z 5.8 14.4/ 97.8 PORSCHE 928 GT 5.9 14.3/ 99.7 NISSAN 300ZX TURBO 6.0 14.4/100.9 FERRARI TESTAROSSA 6.3 14.5/100.7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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