Euro Posted February 7, 2007 Report Share Posted February 7, 2007 sounds like a really cool project shaun!!!! where are you gonna find OSV badges? and FWIW, that northstar was fit into a 94 GTP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slick Posted February 7, 2007 Report Share Posted February 7, 2007 Use MegaSquirt and do your own tuning. BTW, heres the dimensions of the LX5. Rob wanted me to post them up, he's in his garage. Front to Rear- Front manifold to rear flange by th O2 31" Side to Side- From the Tensioner bolt to the crossover 28" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitaloutsider Posted February 7, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 7, 2007 I already have a place to get the OSV badges from. Not a big deal. As far as the Northstar goes, that WAS in RWD form. I'm sure that's a big difference when it comes to fitment. I can't measure the LQ1 with it still in the car, but from what I've measured of the engine bay itself, I'd say the LX5 should fit. There might be MINOR issues, but I don't see any major problem with it. And there's nothing a BFH can't fix. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo Posted February 7, 2007 Report Share Posted February 7, 2007 You can have MY 93' LQ1 ... the only thing wrong with it is an Intrepid trunk imprint. =X Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitaloutsider Posted February 7, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 7, 2007 lol. I'll pass! Thanks, though! I was reading up on MegaSquirt. I really REALLY want to use a GM PCM for the sheer compatibility with everything else onboard the car. I suppose if HPTuners/DHP can't help me out, I can always retain OBD-I and still tune with a MAF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IRONDOG442 Posted February 7, 2007 Report Share Posted February 7, 2007 The dynometer says the LX-5 has got more hp and torque than the LQ1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mra32 Posted February 7, 2007 Report Share Posted February 7, 2007 Use MegaSquirt and do your own tuning. BTW, heres the dimensions of the LX5. Rob wanted me to post them up, he's in his garage. Front to Rear- Front manifold to rear flange by th O2 31" Side to Side- From the Tensioner bolt to the crossover 28" I wouldn't use MegaSquirt on an application like this. If the engine bay is gonna be as much a problem as you say it is, then Shun will have enough issues to work out, let alone jumping into a standalone engine management program. MS's main customer base is for people who are running setups for which there is no engine management system available (Converting from carb to injected or from throttle body injection to multi-port injection.) The thing about MS is that its more or less an educated guess to start out with as far as fuel maps go. (This is assuming you get it all together perfectly fine, Not saying its incredibly hard, but ive seen a couple MS projects abandoned because either it ran worse than before or they couldnt even get it started, due to improper configuration or fuel maps that are inccorrect that particular engine). MS is good for someone who needs to be into cars much further than they already are That being said, I had decided that this was the route i was going to take if i had gotten the starion of my dreams. as you can see, I do not drive a starion. Not because I was afraid of the project, but because my parents deemed it unwise to buy "such an old car". (only 4 years older than the lumina). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitaloutsider Posted February 7, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 7, 2007 My thoughts exactly on MegaSquirt. There HAS to be some way to tune this PCM. I wonder how INTENSE, ZZP, DHP, etc. do their off the shelf PCM programming. Someone said that ZZP uses HPTuners, but I find it very hard to believe that they have to throw a PCM in a car everytime they want to flash it. There has to be an out-of-the-car solution. Even if there isn't, there has to be a way to program this PCM without a Tech-II. Does anyone know a LOT about how OBD-II and tuning works?! Thanks for your advice, mra32. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeeJay3800 Posted February 8, 2007 Report Share Posted February 8, 2007 Any idea where you can get a good, mint Cutlass to use for this project? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitaloutsider Posted February 8, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 8, 2007 NO IDEA! If only there was someone selling a nice, mint white Cutlass with a moonroof and without rust! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nebojsa_o Posted February 8, 2007 Report Share Posted February 8, 2007 OMG Shaun, I'm a genius. I know just the guy!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IRONDOG442 Posted February 8, 2007 Report Share Posted February 8, 2007 This answers your question http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Chevrolet-Monte-Carlo-Z34-Cadillac-Northstar-V8-Monte-Carlo_W0QQitemZ290078235037QQihZ019QQcategoryZ6171QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitaloutsider Posted February 8, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 8, 2007 Yeah. No shit. If a Northstar and the MASSIVE 4T80-E fits in a first gen, the LX5 isn't going to be a problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy Posted February 8, 2007 Report Share Posted February 8, 2007 Yeah. No shit. If a Northstar and the MASSIVE 4T80-E fits in a first gen, the LX5 isn't going to be a problem. someone swapped in a N* to a 1G GP a while ago.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitaloutsider Posted February 8, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 8, 2007 As I said before, it was also a RWD conversion. It had nearly an entire F-body front end in it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy Posted February 8, 2007 Report Share Posted February 8, 2007 As I said before, it was also a RWD conversion. It had nearly an entire F-body front end in it. oh yeah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSVHURST/OLDS Posted February 8, 2007 Report Share Posted February 8, 2007 Sounds like a really cool project . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slick Posted February 8, 2007 Report Share Posted February 8, 2007 Someone put a N* in a 1.5 gen. so I'm sure you could put a LX5 in a 1st gen also. IIRC, the engine bays are a bit different from the 1.5 gens to the 1 gens. I believe its the firewall. http://www.w-body.com/forum/index.php/topic,54610.0.html Read Ken's post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slick Posted February 8, 2007 Report Share Posted February 8, 2007 I truthfully think that your gonna have fitment issues in the front to back. Even though, say near the top, it looks like its gonna fit, I bet those exhaust manifolds will get pretty damn close to the fans. So... you may have to resort to mounting them on the front side of the radiator. Then, you will have to figure out what your gonna do about the rear manifold and downpipe fitment issues. I do know, for a fact, that the 1.5 gens have a lot more space around the rear exhaust manifold and downpipe area than the gen 1's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty Rockstar Posted February 8, 2007 Report Share Posted February 8, 2007 Im sure you can get oske slim fitting fans.. FOr example, a guy named Tyre added a 4.9 PFI to an 82 Citation: http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/12/web/264000-264999/264625_9_full.jpg He also put this same motor into a 92 IIRC Z34 (Same as that guy who made the Lumina look like a storm trooper..) I seriously think the LX5 can fit whitout much of an issue.. ..But Im with Shaun and the BFH principle! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slick Posted February 8, 2007 Report Share Posted February 8, 2007 Im sure you can get oske slim fitting fans.. FOr example, a guy named Tyre added a 4.9 PFI to an 82 Citation: http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/12/web/264000-264999/264625_9_full.jpg He also put this same motor into a 92 IIRC Z34 (Same as that guy who made the Lumina look like a storm trooper..) I seriously think the LX5 can fit whitout much of an issue.. ..But Im with Shaun and the BFH principle! I don't think a hammer will solve the fitment issues in this case, unless you pound in the firewall SEVERAL inches in a big ass area. To safely modify it, you would want to cut and reweld the metal to get it to fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitaloutsider Posted February 8, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 8, 2007 I'm going to head to the J/Y sometime and measure an engineless first-gen to see what room I have to play with. If it, in fact, does have extreme fitment issues, I guess I'll drop the LX5 idea, as much as I really hate to do that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitaloutsider Posted February 8, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 8, 2007 I'm leaning toward turbocharging the LQ1. Ack.. It all rides on the measurements I get back from Steve tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IRONDOG442 Posted February 8, 2007 Report Share Posted February 8, 2007 OSV niiiiice Avatar!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSVHURST/OLDS Posted February 9, 2007 Report Share Posted February 9, 2007 OSV niiiiice Avatar!!! Thanks ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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