digitaloutsider Posted November 26, 2006 Report Share Posted November 26, 2006 SuperTech conventional oil is now Quaker State/Pennzoil. It was previously Mobil. SuperTech synthetic seems to be it's own entity. It is produced by Warren Oil, but it's not a badge-engineered product. It's designed and manufactured exclusively for Wal-Mart, and is surprisingly good oil for the price. It's all I've used for the past two years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfewtrail Posted November 26, 2006 Report Share Posted November 26, 2006 Here's a thread where someone requested information from Walmart about SuperTech oil. http://theoildrop.server101.com/forums/showflat.php?Cat=0&Board=UBB1&Number=765712&Searchpage=1&Main=764989&Words=Super+Tech&topic=&Search=true#Post765712 As you can see, it's kind a "grab bag" when it comes to what brand you actually get with Supertech. The majority of the SuperTech oil at both of the Walmarts in my is made by Warren/WPP oil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gp90se Posted November 26, 2006 Report Share Posted November 26, 2006 Ive run a few different ones, so far the only one I dislike is royal purple. $7.75/quart, burned off, has an odd smell when warming the car up and since it was so dark 2 start with, it was impossible to check when it gets "dark" I am runny syntec at the moment and have absolutely no problems. I think next I will run valvoline. I do my oil/filter change every 5k. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SigEpCutlass Posted November 27, 2006 Report Share Posted November 27, 2006 Amsoil Series 2000 0W-30 Synthetic FTW!!! Why do you use such a thin oil? I use that formulation because it may very well be the best oil Amsoil makes that is not for racing. It's worked great, and the car warms up faster in the winter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitaloutsider Posted November 28, 2006 Report Share Posted November 28, 2006 Here's a thread where someone requested information from Walmart about SuperTech oil. http://theoildrop.server101.com/forums/showflat.php?Cat=0&Board=UBB1&Number=765712&Searchpage=1&Main=764989&Words=Super+Tech&topic=&Search=true#Post765712 As you can see, it's kind a "grab bag" when it comes to what brand you actually get with Supertech. The majority of the SuperTech oil at both of the Walmarts in my is made by Warren/WPP oil. That's an outdated list. Circa late 2005. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairdo12 Posted November 28, 2006 Report Share Posted November 28, 2006 Amsoil Series 2000 0W-30 Synthetic FTW!!! I agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5speedz34 Posted November 28, 2006 Report Share Posted November 28, 2006 Amsoil Series 2000 0W-30 Synthetic FTW!!! Why do you use such a thin oil? I use that formulation because it may very well be the best oil Amsoil makes that is not for racing. It's worked great, and the car warms up faster in the winter. Have you noticed a difference in mpg with the thinner oil?! Also, should you be worried about how thin it is? About the Wal-Mart oil: I work a Lube and Tire tech at Wal-Mart; I've heard that SuperTech was Mobil and I also heard that it was recycled oil. Is it better than Valvoline?! I mean for our oil change prices it's $2 more for Valvoline, so I usually push that since it's generally thought that the regular SuperTech is crap. I think in the 6 months I've been here we've put SuperTech synthetic in a vehicle once. Recently, the 5W30 bottles have changed and the oil is now much clearer than it was before. This change happened in the end of July, beginning of August. Any thoughts?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitaloutsider Posted November 28, 2006 Report Share Posted November 28, 2006 A LOT of oil is recycled.. that's why you take it to places who'll re-refine it rather than dumping it in a drain somewhere. A vast amount of the oil you buy contains recycled petrolium products. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19Cutlass94 Posted November 28, 2006 Report Share Posted November 28, 2006 NAPA oil is made by Valvoline. Thats pretty much recycled oil.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5speedz34 Posted November 28, 2006 Report Share Posted November 28, 2006 A LOT of oil is recycled.. that's why you take it to places who'll re-refine it rather than dumping it in a drain somewhere. A vast amount of the oil you buy contains recycled petrolium products. Yeah, I figured that. But, tell that to the general public when you want to sell them an oil change. Any more info on SuperTech? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
97loudcut Posted November 28, 2006 Report Share Posted November 28, 2006 I use Havoline 5w30 right now with an AC Dizzle filter. Probably switch back to Royal Pizzle 10w30 when it get's spring tizzle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5speedz34 Posted November 28, 2006 Report Share Posted November 28, 2006 I've never gotten the point of switching between 10w30 and 5w30. 5w30 covers all the temperatures that 10w30 does and more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitaloutsider Posted November 28, 2006 Report Share Posted November 28, 2006 I use Havoline 5w30 right now with an AC Dizzle filter. Probably switch back to Royal Pizzle 10w30 when it get's spring tizzle The newer AC Delco filters are E-core, since Champion Labs has moved to pretty much all E-core designs. This is why I've switched from my trusty SuperTech filters to Purolator PureOne's. Make sure you're using old stock, and not the new E-core filters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5speedz34 Posted November 28, 2006 Report Share Posted November 28, 2006 I use Havoline 5w30 right now with an AC Dizzle filter. Probably switch back to Royal Pizzle 10w30 when it get's spring tizzle The newer AC Delco filters are E-core, since Champion Labs has moved to pretty much all E-core designs. This is why I've switched from my trusty SuperTech filters to Purolator PureOne's. Make sure you're using old stock, and not the new E-core filters. WTF is E-core? Everywhere stopped stocking Purolators around here. I use Wix. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitaloutsider Posted November 28, 2006 Report Share Posted November 28, 2006 This is what a typical oil filter looks like: The filter element is held in place by perforated metal. E-core on the other hand uses a plastic "grate" to hold the element in place. It's very widely spaced, and under high pressure the element can collapse, causing filter failure and allowing contaminants back into the oil and the engine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5speedz34 Posted November 28, 2006 Report Share Posted November 28, 2006 This is what a typical oil filter looks like: The filter element is held in place by perforated metal. E-core on the other hand uses a plastic "grate" to hold the element in place. It's very widely spaced, and under high pressure the element can collapse, causing filter failure and allowing contaminants back into the oil and the engine. Wow, so its pretty much to save money? Can you look into a Delco filter and tell it has E-core? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
99RegalGS Posted November 28, 2006 Report Share Posted November 28, 2006 I remember that article about the new filter design, and how it "imploded" on that one person. Is this what you're referring to? I thought that was an isolated incident. The new design is suppose to be better than the older design also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gp90se Posted November 28, 2006 Report Share Posted November 28, 2006 When I worked at the quick-lube place, i saw 3 filters that had failed, and all 3 were frams Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitaloutsider Posted November 29, 2006 Report Share Posted November 29, 2006 Wow, so its pretty much to save money? Can you look into a Delco filter and tell it has E-core? Yes, it's for the most part a money saving move. You can look inside a filter and tell easily. If it's E-core it'll have little "windows" with the filter element exposed. I might go buy an e-core filter tonight if i can get a ride and disassemble it for pictures. I remember that article about the new filter design, and how it "imploded" on that one person. Is this what you're referring to? I thought that was an isolated incident. The new design is suppose to be better than the older design also. I don't see how it could structurally be better at all. It just LOOKS cheap. However, as you said, it seems to be an isolated incident. I just don't like how it looks. I guess it all depends on the quality of the element and how well it'll stand up to the pressure. I've never had any bad luck with ANY Champion Labs filter, to be honest with you. (Champion Labs makes AC Delco, ValueCraft, K&N, Mobil 1, SuperTech, STP, and a few other store-brand filters). When I worked at the quick-lube place, i saw 3 filters that had failed, and all 3 were frams Frams are a whole different story alltogether. Cheap cardboard endcaps (yes, cardboard), poorly made plastic anti-drainback valves, small pleats, cheap element. Fram filters pretty poor all across the board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitaloutsider Posted November 29, 2006 Report Share Posted November 29, 2006 Here's what the E-Core filter looks like A lot of people seem to like the design. I'm still a little iffy about it, but I've ran two E-Core ST filters over 5,000 miles with no ill effects, so I guess they're okay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THe_DeTAiL3R Posted November 29, 2006 Report Share Posted November 29, 2006 My pockets aren't deep enough to put synthetic in my POS. x2 when I get a performance engine I'll use a performance oil. Old dino oil hasn't stopped our engines from going several hundered thousand miles/kilometers. I did pick up 6qts of Motomaster full synthetic oil cause it was on sale (only a bit more than the regular oil).. I'll be putting it in the spring time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
99RegalGS Posted November 29, 2006 Report Share Posted November 29, 2006 Here's a link to information on the E-Core oil filter. http://www.theautochannel.com/news/2004/11/03/270769.html Ecore's advanced core design has up to 10 times more flow through area than traditional metal cores, resulting in reduced flow restriction across the filter element. Tests indicate that Ecore's new roll seam design delivers up to 49 percent higher burst strength and its new nylon core increases collapse strength more than 50 percent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo Posted November 29, 2006 Report Share Posted November 29, 2006 Castrol Syntech 5w30. My SL sat a year and started up like a top. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5speedz34 Posted November 29, 2006 Report Share Posted November 29, 2006 Castrol Syntech 5w30. My SL sat a year and started up like a top. Your supposed to change oil if a car sits for more than 3 months or something like that. Shawn, do cut open your filters each time? Also, I'll have to look at these E-core filters next time I'm at work. As for Fram, its all we use in the shop we use the Fram "Pro" line which is identical to the regular orange Fram ones inside, I think. The higher up frams seem to be of a better design. Granted, I wouldn't use anything made by the Honeywell corporation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5speedz34 Posted November 29, 2006 Report Share Posted November 29, 2006 EDIT: I guess Honeywell makes these other products. * Autolite Spark Plugs * Fram Filters * Prestone Car-care Products * Honeywell Auto B2B * Garrett Turbochargers * BendixBrakes * Holts God, I hate corporate America. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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