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garyk1970

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mine is erratic at cruising speeds.im an 12volt electrical tech,so wiring is correct,is this normal or is it my gage(FAZE)?what brand name is everyone using?accurate?

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Guest TurboSedan

yes it's normal to bounce around - that's the ECM correcting the A/F using the signal from the O2 sensor. it will bounce from rich to lean anytime the engine is in closed loop operation.

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If you are tapped into the 02 sensor feed line then yes you will have a constant high-low input. It is what the ECM is constanly trying to trim the fuel for a "perfect" A/F. It will never get there but it tries like hell! :willynilly: :wink:

 

One problem with using the ECM signal is that it is the output the ECM thinks it is seeing. An in-pipe WideBand 02 will give you actual exhaust gas A/F ratio. Just my $ .02 on that. :cool:

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yup it's only going to be somewhat accurate at WOT. narrow band A/F gauges really aren't accurate at all but they will give some assurance that you aren't running lean at WOT. like Kenny said - narrowband A/F gauge is NOT a tuning tool. wideband is.

 

at WOT you still want to see it read rich on the A/F gauge. if you were seeing stoich at WOT that would probably be too lean. here's a vid of mine, it's an Autometer Phantom series narrow band A/F. you can see it bouncing around until you hear me floor it, then it reads steady rich like it should:

 

http://www.turbosedan.com/vids/MOV02357.MPG

 

 

 

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[br]Posted on: 30 April 2006, 20:23:05_________________________________________________

thanks for the info,it does read when wot!thats all that counts, im still alittle rich,need more boost...

 

I would read my last post...DO NOT TUNE BASED ON THE ECM SIGNAL! Easiest way in the world to burn nice holes in the tops of your pistons! You need a WideBand 02 to do that. :cool:

 

Also depending on the chip you are running you will always be towards rich. I do not think any chip people here play with the settings for POWER ENRICHMENT AIR FUEL RATIO. Having 11.7:1 up to 10.4:1 as your RPM rises for desired Air Fuel while under boost is not exactly peak performance...more like flog the combustion chamber with fuel to keep it cool. I will not say what I changed mine to for fear someone would do it to their's and cook their engine...but with minor changes in PE Boost A/F it is like an entirely different monster! :wink:

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thanks, i meant that it reads rich at wot.i see its not accurate,but its better than what i can guess,where the link to educate me on a wide band o2?

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thanks invasion1,im taking your advice on everything.

 

Oh boy...look out! :leaving:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

:joke: Dave is definitely one of the more advanced LG5 power plant owners on here! Although his taste in interior colors is to be determined! :puke: :wink: :lol: :cool:

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