55trucker Posted October 30, 2023 Report Share Posted October 30, 2023 Well, how much money-on-hand do you have? How much are you willing to spend on a replacement engine? out of curiosity... how long have you owned the car? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
94CSC Posted October 30, 2023 Author Report Share Posted October 30, 2023 1 hour ago, Schurkey said: WHO is supplying this "rebuilt" engine? I get extremely suspicious of production-line "rebuilds", too many cut corners. Good question, I’ve asked. The shop doing the install would offer a 3 year/36k miles warranty-whichever comes last. So I feel good about that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
94CSC Posted October 30, 2023 Author Report Share Posted October 30, 2023 51 minutes ago, 55trucker said: Well, how much money-on-hand do you have? How much are you willing to spend on a replacement engine? out of curiosity... how long have you owned the car? I’ve got the money on hand. Just want to make sure I’m doing the right thing. I’ve owned the car coming up on three years. Put very few miles on it. Bought it site unseen not running from MN (no rust). Shipped directly to my mechanic who determined it threw a timing belt. He fixed it and outside of other smaller repairs-cars been fine. I’m wondering if after it threw that belt, maybe the dealer kept trying to turn it over and damaged it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
94CSC Posted October 30, 2023 Author Report Share Posted October 30, 2023 $3,236 for labor and $4685 for the “long block assembly “. Never priced this kinda stuff out before… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
55trucker Posted October 31, 2023 Report Share Posted October 31, 2023 Here's a possible alternative..... a complete new old stock crate engine, they do show up from time to time. As far as I can tell this fellow is near Charlston South Carolina. https://columbia.craigslist.org/pts/d/branchville-gm-lq1-34-crate-engine/7681921695.html He answered my email.....He has the engine, never fired, still crated he looking for $899 or best offer didn't state what version the heads were !st version or 2nd *i there..just looked at this posting, it was dated 2 days ago? do you still have this engine? thx Steve *Yes I do 803 664 4888 Sent from my iPhone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
94CSC Posted October 31, 2023 Author Report Share Posted October 31, 2023 3 hours ago, 55trucker said: Here's a possible alternative..... a complete new old stock crate engine, they do show up from time to time. As far as I can tell this fellow is near Charlston South Carolina. https://columbia.craigslist.org/pts/d/branchville-gm-lq1-34-crate-engine/7681921695.html He answered my email.....He has the engine, never fired, still crated he looking for $899 or best offer didn't state what version the heads were !st version or 2nd *i there..just looked at this posting, it was dated 2 days ago? do you still have this engine? thx Steve *Yes I do 803 664 4888 Sent from my iPhone Like minds….I emailed him also but haven’t heard back yet. Thanks for sharing this, I’ll use the number he provided. @jiggity76 also gave me a lead on the folks he got his from and they do have a few left, I’m calling them tomorrow. Going this route could save me thousands… jiggity76 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
94CSC Posted December 22, 2023 Author Report Share Posted December 22, 2023 Update for everyone. Finally found a reputable shop with experience working solely on older GM’s, Cadillacs specifically. When he heard the car run and start he immediately knew what was going on…the timing belt was installed incorrectly and the car was out of time. This was causing the noise, hard start, shuddering once TCC engaged, and vibration. He also fixed the horn and SWC (kinda). Three other shops couldn’t figure this out. I’m so relieved, cars running so good. IMG_3899.mov IMG_3901.mov jiggity76 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
55trucker Posted December 23, 2023 Report Share Posted December 23, 2023 (edited) Curious... I've been thru the *incorrectly timed* engine B.S. ...took place back when the engine was still under warranty, the exhaust cams were improperly timed to the crank (late) by the GM shop mechanic who (way back then) had next to no experience on this engine, engine would start, run, but lacked overall power. There was no undue noise, no backfiring.......what was the actual source of the noise that could be heard? *looking at the video you made I see that when the engine was reassembled the mechanic didn't properly route the front bank plug wires to where they should be... Edited December 23, 2023 by 55trucker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
94CSC Posted December 23, 2023 Author Report Share Posted December 23, 2023 30 minutes ago, 55trucker said: Curious... I've been thru the *incorrectly timed* engine B.S. ...took place back when the engine was still under warranty, the exhaust cams were improperly timed to the crank (late) by the GM shop mechanic who (way back then) had next to no experience on this engine, engine would start, run, but lacked overall power. There was no undue noise, no backfiring.......what was the actual source of the noise that could be heard? *looking at the video you made I see that when the engine was reassembled the mechanic didn't properly route the front bank plug wires to where they should be... Do you have a pic of how they should be routed? This mechanic didn’t mess with plugs so I’m thinking this is from someone who was in it before I got it. He said something with the timing about having to move it 180 degrees. Basically the way it was installed would show that the car was in time when previous mechanics checked it but really it wasn’t. I’ll have to call him for a better explanation. But no more noise, fires right off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
55trucker Posted December 23, 2023 Report Share Posted December 23, 2023 Ok, think I'm getting the picture here, when timing the 4 cams the rear bank are done 1st (#1 is at the back), at this stage the cam sprockets are free, the 2 cam locks are in place, one brings the crank up to top dead for #1, then one tightens the 2 rear cam sprockets to lock them into place, one then removes the cam lock for the rear bank & now one rotates the crank another 360 degrees to bring #4 up to to dead centre & one repeats the timing process again. Now all 4 cams should be timed correctly. The plug wires are routed behind the coolant manifold, all 6 come very close to the A/C piping, the rears go up & out of sight across the front of the engine, the fronts are held together in that oval shaped split loom & fastened to the clip on the corner of the carrier cover. Are the short sections of split loom still covering the wires down near the coils? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
94CSC Posted December 23, 2023 Author Report Share Posted December 23, 2023 2 hours ago, 55trucker said: Ok, think I'm getting the picture here, when timing the 4 cams the rear bank are done 1st (#1 is at the back), at this stage the cam sprockets are free, the 2 cam locks are in place, one brings the crank up to top dead for #1, then one tightens the 2 rear cam sprockets to lock them into place, one then removes the cam lock for the rear bank & now one rotates the crank another 360 degrees to bring #4 up to to dead centre & one repeats the timing process again. Now all 4 cams should be timed correctly. The plug wires are routed behind the coolant manifold, all 6 come very close to the A/C piping, the rears go up & out of sight across the front of the engine, the fronts are held together in that oval shaped split loom & fastened to the clip on the corner of the carrier cover. Are the short sections of split loom still covering the wires down near the coils? Looks like I need to reroute. I can just pop off 2/4/6 and move them. Also appears I need to buy some covers as well. Assume auto parts store will have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
94CSC Posted December 23, 2023 Author Report Share Posted December 23, 2023 Also, can someone show me how these should be placed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
94CSC Posted January 3 Author Report Share Posted January 3 Does anyone have a pic they can share that will help me determine how these should be placed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
55trucker Posted January 3 Report Share Posted January 3 I didn't respond to this pic earlier as I do not own a 94 or later car. What I see looks like the forward end of the coolant recovery tank, I take it that your engine bay has a wiring harness protruding from the top of the engine just forward of the power steering pump that goes over to the electrical centre just in front of the coolant recovery tank? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
94CSC Posted January 3 Author Report Share Posted January 3 Yes, that’s correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
55trucker Posted January 4 Report Share Posted January 4 This help? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
94CSC Posted January 4 Author Report Share Posted January 4 Yes I think so, thank you. Looks like one clips into coolant overflow tank as I have it and then others might just be resting there-harder to see those. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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