jmoore4294 Posted December 4, 2008 Report Share Posted December 4, 2008 I'm looking for an STB, but I'm undecided on which one to look for, or buy when one comes available. Which would be the better choice? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Euro Posted December 4, 2008 Report Share Posted December 4, 2008 Um...you should have the 3.4 bar already....so stick with that one! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy Posted December 4, 2008 Report Share Posted December 4, 2008 ^^^^^ what he said, plus I personally like the 3.4 bar the best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmoore4294 Posted December 4, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 4, 2008 LoL!! I need to update my sig. I no longer have the vert. It is sold. I have a 95 CS SL 3100. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Night Fury Posted December 4, 2008 Report Share Posted December 4, 2008 YOU WENT THE WRONG WAY! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Euro Posted December 4, 2008 Report Share Posted December 4, 2008 ooooooooooh! Well then, 3.4 bar still! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmoore4294 Posted December 4, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 4, 2008 YOU WENT THE WRONG WAY! I know. It is sad. But I needed something that had been better taken care of, and didn't require me dumping a bunch of money into in order for it to get me back and forth to work. So I sold her for $450, and bought this other one for $750. I do still need to get pics. http://www.w-body.com/forum/index.php?topic=72617.0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pontiacmaniac94 Posted December 4, 2008 Report Share Posted December 4, 2008 well, i have a 3.1 STB, i am just too lazy to throw it up here, and i really am not liking the idea of having to ship the stupid thing. but i would go with the 3.1, just because (atleast for me) they are easier to find; Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmoore4294 Posted December 4, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 4, 2008 For me, they are super rare around here. I visit the "local" pull a part regularly, and have only come across 2 verts, and both were damn near stripped to the bare metal. So, going with held or getting one shipped from someone on here who has one, would be the only way for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Addicted To Boost Posted December 4, 2008 Report Share Posted December 4, 2008 IMO the 3.1 bar looks nicer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Night Fury Posted December 4, 2008 Report Share Posted December 4, 2008 IMO the 3.1 bar looks nicer. X2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5speedz34 Posted December 5, 2008 Report Share Posted December 5, 2008 Someone trade me a 3.1 bar for a 3.4 bar! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gpchris Posted December 5, 2008 Report Share Posted December 5, 2008 OMG you people.. Theres no 3.1/3.4 bars! Theres an early design and a improved design.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy Posted December 5, 2008 Report Share Posted December 5, 2008 OMG you people.. Theres no 3.1/3.4 bars! Theres an early design and a improved design.. ummmm.......not true.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gpchris Posted December 5, 2008 Report Share Posted December 5, 2008 OMG you people.. Theres no 3.1/3.4 bars! Theres an early design and a improved design.. ummmm.......not true.... Duuddee, idk where your getting your info.. Ive seen first hand. Ive seen over 30 verts in junkyards. Most had the square bar (92ish plus 3.1/3.4) and only the early ones had the round bar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmoore4294 Posted December 5, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 5, 2008 Ok. So besides looks. Let's talk functionality/strength. Is the 3.4 bar still better? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy Posted December 5, 2008 Report Share Posted December 5, 2008 Duuddee, idk where your getting your info.. Ive seen first hand. Ive seen over 30 verts in junkyards. Most had the square bar (92ish plus 3.1/3.4) and only the early ones had the round bar. pre '94 verts with the 3.1 had the round bar all 3.4 verts regardless of year had the square bar '94-95 3100s had the square bar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldscsc Posted December 5, 2008 Report Share Posted December 5, 2008 Duuddee, idk where your getting your info.. Ive seen first hand. Ive seen over 30 verts in junkyards. Most had the square bar (92ish plus 3.1/3.4) and only the early ones had the round bar. pre '94 verts with the 3.1 had the round bar all 3.4 verts regardless of year had the square bar '94-95 3100s had the square bar x2, here's mine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gpchris Posted December 5, 2008 Report Share Posted December 5, 2008 Duuddee, idk where your getting your info.. Ive seen first hand. Ive seen over 30 verts in junkyards. Most had the square bar (92ish plus 3.1/3.4) and only the early ones had the round bar. pre '94 verts with the 3.1 had the round bar all 3.4 verts regardless of year had the square bar '94-95 3100s had the square bar Nope, ive seen 3.1's with the square bar.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy Posted December 5, 2008 Report Share Posted December 5, 2008 Nope, ive seen 3.1's with the square bar.. ok....you're right.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldscsc Posted December 5, 2008 Report Share Posted December 5, 2008 Duuddee, idk where your getting your info.. Ive seen first hand. Ive seen over 30 verts in junkyards. Most had the square bar (92ish plus 3.1/3.4) and only the early ones had the round bar. pre '94 verts with the 3.1 had the round bar all 3.4 verts regardless of year had the square bar '94-95 3100s had the square bar Nope, ive seen 3.1's with the square bar.. It's not that hard to change, they were probably upgraded at some point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gpchris Posted December 5, 2008 Report Share Posted December 5, 2008 Duuddee, idk where your getting your info.. Ive seen first hand. Ive seen over 30 verts in junkyards. Most had the square bar (92ish plus 3.1/3.4) and only the early ones had the round bar. pre '94 verts with the 3.1 had the round bar all 3.4 verts regardless of year had the square bar '94-95 3100s had the square bar Nope, ive seen 3.1's with the square bar.. It's not that hard to change, they were probably upgraded at some point. Possible but highly unlikely.. Ive looked into this before.. Either bar works on either engine and there is an early design and a later more common improved design. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RareGMFan Posted December 5, 2008 Report Share Posted December 5, 2008 The reason the square ones were designed like they were (arched back from the strut towers against the firewall) was to clear the 3.4 plenum and the brake fluid reservoir (thus the little indentation on the far driver's side). The round ones don't clear the 3.4, which was the whole reason for the redesign, as far as I understand. This is why they are usually referred to as 3.1 and 3.4 bars. The 3.4 will clear any w-body. The 3.1 won't clear the LQ1. Structurally, I really don't think either one is going to be stronger than the other, at least not enough that you can tell a difference. Aesthetically, it's a matter of taste. I like the square ones better because the round ones seem cheap to me somehow. I don't think I've come across a round one yet in the junkyards, but I've seen (and snagged) probably a good dozen square bars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy K Posted December 5, 2008 Report Share Posted December 5, 2008 The reason the square ones were designed like they were (arched back from the strut towers against the firewall) was to clear the 3.4 plenum and the brake fluid reservoir (thus the little indentation on the far driver's side). The round ones don't clear the 3.4, which was the whole reason for the redesign, as far as I understand. This is why they are usually referred to as 3.1 and 3.4 bars. The 3.4 will clear any w-body. The 3.1 won't clear the LQ1. Structurally, I really don't think either one is going to be stronger than the other, at least not enough that you can tell a difference. Aesthetically, it's a matter of taste. I like the square ones better because the round ones seem cheap to me somehow. I don't think I've come across a round one yet in the junkyards, but I've seen (and snagged) probably a good dozen square bars. what he said. so far... all 90, 91 and 92 verts i have seen have the round bar. so far... all 93, 94 and 95 verts i have seen have the square bar. the LQ1 was not offered till 93 as far as i can tell. hence... they updated the design to a universal one that worked when they began putting a 3.4 motor in. It is more cost effective than making two types of bars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Euro Posted December 5, 2008 Report Share Posted December 5, 2008 /discussion!!! Ken and D FTW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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