gpchris Posted September 6, 2007 Report Share Posted September 6, 2007 Logically it seems like it would be safe to put stands on the frame rails but I'm not going to do it unless i'm sure. So anybody know? Is it safe?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo Posted September 6, 2007 Report Share Posted September 6, 2007 Body Seam 8" from the wheel wells roughly... or under the subframe. Just don't trust the jackpad in the rear. Mine was *crunchy*. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gpchris Posted September 6, 2007 Author Report Share Posted September 6, 2007 God did you even read the post?? …Seriously I know you can place the stands on the pinch rails or subframe but considering the subframe mounts to the frame rails you'd think it would be safest to put them there. Besides my pinch rails arent getting any younger.. I just seen a w-body without any gastank/subframes and you could clearly see the frame rails and how the subframes mount to them. In time I'll be doing quite a bit of work and i'd like to have it off the ground for a few months to work on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slick Posted September 6, 2007 Report Share Posted September 6, 2007 Yes, the frame rails are fine to use. I generally use them over the pinch's anyways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GtipGary Posted September 6, 2007 Report Share Posted September 6, 2007 Well depending on how your using the Pinch Welds... you risk crushing them. I crunched them on my other car (partly because im a dumb ass and i was drunk). Ive had my gp up on the rails for long periods it was totally fine. I would actually say that that is the best spot to do it IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gpchris Posted September 6, 2007 Author Report Share Posted September 6, 2007 Ok and just to make sure we are talking about these: And NOT the pinch rails RIGHT?? I just gotta make sure because i dont wana F*** my car up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian P Posted September 6, 2007 Report Share Posted September 6, 2007 ...yeah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLAMDIT Posted September 6, 2007 Report Share Posted September 6, 2007 Ok and just to make sure we are talking about these: And NOT the pinch rails RIGHT?? I just gotta make sure because i dont wana F*** my car up. Holy shit! I thought my undercarriage was clean!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Euro Posted September 6, 2007 Report Share Posted September 6, 2007 Ok and just to make sure we are talking about these: And NOT the pinch rails RIGHT?? I just gotta make sure because i dont wana F*** my car up. Holy shit! I thought my undercarriage was clean!! Yeah that GTP is gorgeous....FULLY re'done Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SigEpCutlass Posted September 6, 2007 Report Share Posted September 6, 2007 damn that is clean! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slick Posted September 6, 2007 Report Share Posted September 6, 2007 I would never put that much money into a 2nd gen Grand Prix. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo Posted September 6, 2007 Report Share Posted September 6, 2007 God did you even read the post?? RTFM it states where to jack and hence where to put JACK STANDS. =\ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DOHCRagtopguy Posted September 6, 2007 Report Share Posted September 6, 2007 I've always used the frame rails whenever possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GtipGary Posted September 7, 2007 Report Share Posted September 7, 2007 OK... i dont think that the car in the pics is a grand prix... you can buy a type of jack stand (two of them) and put your car on them and swing your car sideways like that. Its pretty fucking cool, soooo perfect for exhaust jobs or cleaning the piss out of the bottom of your car. Also in the owners manual it sais to use the pinch welds... but im pretty sure (correct me if im wrong) the scissor jack that comes with the car has a notch in it so that it doesnt actually USE the pinch weld just whats above it. btw i have the company name and part number for those jacks if anyone is interested. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gpchris Posted September 7, 2007 Author Report Share Posted September 7, 2007 Well it is a grand prix.. a 2nd gen grand prix. And Are you talking about a rotisserie?? I dont think its safe to put your car on one with the engine still in it. And yes i'm interested If you can get me a cheap one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GtipGary Posted September 7, 2007 Report Share Posted September 7, 2007 wow!!! that is one damn clean gp!!! Ill check the price when i go to work tomorrow. And to go off topic you should go to the meet that is coming up soon. Me, Shocktherapy, and theoneliln are going for sure (as far as people from around here goes). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gpchris Posted September 7, 2007 Author Report Share Posted September 7, 2007 The wheaton meet? And is cameron gona tow his white gtp there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSI_MuNkY Posted September 7, 2007 Report Share Posted September 7, 2007 Well it is a grand prix.. a 2nd gen grand prix. And Are you talking about a rotisserie?? I dont think its safe to put your car on one with the engine still in it. And yes i'm interested If you can get me a cheap one. Yeah, definitely not safe to put anything more than the shell of a car on a rotisserie, they are not made to carry all that weight. I seem to recall seeing pictures (not here) where someone put the car on one, engine and all, and when they turned it over the rotisserie snapped and the cars roof was caved in. I normally would use the frame rails to hold up the car, unless I'm working at my dads, he has jacks that are made to accommodate unibody cars with a groove for the pinch weld to slide down into. I find getting the stands out farther to the sides like that gives you more room to move around underneath the car. Jamie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5speedz34 Posted September 7, 2007 Report Share Posted September 7, 2007 Jamie, can you post pics of said jack stands? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSI_MuNkY Posted September 7, 2007 Report Share Posted September 7, 2007 Jamie, can you post pics of said jack stands? Not of his specifically. My parents house is 2+ hours away and I'm not sure when I will be there next. I was able to find this pic on Google, the stand to the far right is almost identical, but my dads are orange. The groove fits the pinch welds on my car perfectly. They look tiny next to the 6 and 12 ton stands, lol. They get my car high enough for me, in fact we can't put the car to the very top because my dads jacks don't go high enough. (the one he has that does go high enough disappeared, probably to my brothers garage) Jamie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5speedz34 Posted September 7, 2007 Report Share Posted September 7, 2007 Ok, thanks man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GutlessSupreme Posted September 7, 2007 Report Share Posted September 7, 2007 Yeah, definitely not safe to put anything more than the shell of a car on a rotisserie, they are not made to carry all that weight. I seem to recall seeing pictures (not here) where someone put the car on one, engine and all, and when they turned it over the rotisserie snapped and the cars roof was caved in. they do make systems capable of turning the whole car (90* anyway). I got a catalog from the Eastwood Company in the mail today and saw one... I looked a little closer and saw it was a 1.5 gen Lumina! figures lol. http://www.eastwoodco.com/jump.jsp?itemID=21187&itemType=PRODUCT catalog pic only showed the underside of the car. anyways. sorry for the hi-jack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSI_MuNkY Posted September 7, 2007 Report Share Posted September 7, 2007 $1400?? I'll crawl around on my back for that!! Jamie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian P Posted September 7, 2007 Report Share Posted September 7, 2007 Monte! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo Posted September 8, 2007 Report Share Posted September 8, 2007 Monte! Z34? LQ1 ... somehow this should make getting at the alternator easier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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