carkhz316 Posted November 16, 2025 Report Posted November 16, 2025 As the title states, I'm looking for any/ all info in regards to the proper master cylinder needed for ABS deletion. I'm only wanting/ needing to do it in order to fit turbocharger piping in the engine bay, and not because of some naive safety circumvention. I am already running a smaller first gen brake booster found on the manual transmission cars if this matters. While searching RockAuto, there seems to be a lot of overlap between the 1st gen W-bodies through 1.5, with and without disc brakes, etc. So, I figured I'd ask the experts since I've seen brake systems discussed here in the past. Thanks! Quote
Bake82 Posted November 17, 2025 Report Posted November 17, 2025 Do you have drums still in the back? Quote
55trucker Posted November 17, 2025 Report Posted November 17, 2025 Being an ABS VI you will have to either re-bend the existing lines at the current ABS module to fit into the 4 ports of the non ABS master or add extensions onto what's there. What's not known is if what is there right now will have the same 4 different line nut fittings that the non ABS master makes use of. Each line nut that goes into the appropriate master port has a different thread pitch & diameter so they could not be mixed up. Quote
carkhz316 Posted November 17, 2025 Author Report Posted November 17, 2025 Flaring and making lines in no issue. I have benders and a hydraulic flaring tool which makes making lines a breeze. If I have enough line, I'd just bend and reattach, but I may make some unions otherwise. I know GM likes to make oddball thread and line sizes at the MC, so no surprise there. Quote
Bake82 Posted November 17, 2025 Report Posted November 17, 2025 Since you're already disks, and using the 1st gen booster, I'd grab a 1st gen master cylinder and re-do the lines as needed. Only thing I'm not entirely sure has been ever discussed has been the bore size of the master. I see there is 7/8 and a 15/16 size bore. I'd ensure you're getting the biggest bore for the disks. Otherwise - not sure on tuning or flashing the BCM to de-activate the ABS so you don't have a light on at all times. Quote
carkhz316 Posted November 17, 2025 Author Report Posted November 17, 2025 (edited) The Monte is pretty simple and old school. All the warning lights are just regular 194 light bulbs. So I was just planning on removing the ABS light bulb and the EBCM. I was curious about the MC bore sizes, since bigger would typically be better unless I'm overlooking something. Edited November 17, 2025 by carkhz316 Quote
Schurkey Posted November 18, 2025 Report Posted November 18, 2025 "Bigger" master cylinder bore = less hydraulic advantage. If you have low-drag front calipers, you NEED the OEM three-chamber, step-bore, Quick Take-Up master cylinder. But I don't know if you have low-drag calipers. Quote
carkhz316 Posted November 18, 2025 Author Report Posted November 18, 2025 I honestly don't know if they're low drag or not. I've never seen anything referencing that in SI or anywhere. I did find in the meantime, a thread by Miko K where he uses a 2nd/ 3rd gen MC with a 1" bore and installed it in his Cutlass. The biggest difference being two line outputs instead of 4, but he T'd them on the car to split the 2 channels to feed the 4 corners. Quote
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