2g Grand Prix dash removal?

[rcLord510]

How difficult is it to pull the dash on a 2g Grand Prix? My 03 doesn’t have ECC(only a 97-2000 option) and I’ve thought about adding it. This entails pulling the dash on the 03 and the donor, and installing the donor dash and climate control features on the 03, along with I’m sure much wiring(this has never been done before as far as I know, I’d be the first.) So Saturday I’m driving out to milwakee to get a bunch of parts for my 03 from a 2000 daytona(rear bumper,trunk, steering wheel, spare hud and bezel, performance shift shifter etc etc blah blah blah) and guy says I can be there as long as I need to pull stuff, so there Inlies my question, how difficult would it be do pull the dash on one of these, is it an all day thing? I know it’s not super difficult on 1g cars, but I have no clue on these

[GtpKo]

It's not bad, takes a couple hours if I remember correctly. Last time I took mine apart was about 2 years ago.

[rich_e777]

Nothing wrong in bringing your lunch to a salvage yard, just hide the beer under the Mt. Dew.

Its not impossible but you do end up fighting a few different plastic clips while holding the dash with your knees at some point, IIRC. Just expect the upper sun soaked area to be brittle when you`re handling it so it doesn't crack. A factory service manual has very nice diagrams that show every mounting point.

[rcLord510]

1 hour ago, rich_e777 said:

Nothing wrong in bringing your lunch to a salvage yard, just hide the beer under the Mt. Dew.

It’s not impossible but you do end up fighting a few different plastic clips while holding the dash with your knees at some point, IIRC. Just expect the upper sun soaked area to be brittle when you`re handling it so it doesn't crack. A factory service manual has very nice diagrams that show every mounting point.

It’s at some guys house so if he’s cool enough he’ll supply the beer

almost wondering if it’s more worth waiting for one to come up at an actual scrap yard and making a day out of it vs being at some random dudes house for 4 hours working on it..

[94 olds vert]

I've never pulled the dash on my 2nd gen. The first gens are very easy. I can't imagine it's all that different. 2nd gen interiors are like legos.

Switching over to a ECC is probably more trouble than it's worth. Those units are known to have issues. Mine still works fine, but I like the simple controls of the manual climate controls. 

Performance shift is cool and has been done many times. It's simple to do and you can get it tuned so it works properly. 

[rcLord510]

4 hours ago, 94 olds vert said:

I've never pulled the dash on my 2nd gen. The first gens are very easy. I can't imagine it's all that different. 2nd gen interiors are like legos.

Switching over to a ECC is probably more trouble than it's worth. Those units are known to have issues. Mine still works fine, but I like the simple controls of the manual climate controls. 

Performance shift is cool and has been done many times. It's simple to do and you can get it tuned so it works properly. 

I believe it’s just a ground and and a wire to pin(23? I think) to the pcm, enable it in hptuners and it’ll work

[94 olds vert]

2 hours ago, rcLord510 said:

I believe it’s just a ground and and a wire to pin(23? I think) to the pcm, enable it in hptuners and it’ll work

I did some searching. Looks like its pin 21. 

My car only has the performance shift indicator on the DIC. I've thought about adding it to the gauge cluster. 

I also want a real boost gauge and a gauge to monitor KR. 

Edited 5 hours ago by 94 olds vert

[rcLord510]

3 hours ago, 94 olds vert said:

I did some searching. Looks like its pin 21. 

My car only has the performance shift indicator on the DIC. I've thought about adding it to the gauge cluster. 

I also want a real boost gauge and a gauge to monitor KR. 

Kr gauge would be neat, I already have real boost gauge but yeah a kr monitor would be real neat. Also cool thank you for looking, really appreciate it, I’ll be digging into that tomorrow, just gotta see if a pin on the inside will lead to that or if I have to run one all the way from the pcm, either way, I’ll be adding it and my 97-2000 style steering wheel tomorrow 

[94 olds vert]

4 minutes ago, rcLord510 said:

Kr gauge would be neat, I already have real boost gauge but yeah a kr monitor would be real neat. Also cool thank you for looking, really appreciate it, I’ll be digging into that tomorrow, just gotta see if a pin on the inside will lead to that or if I have to run one all the way from the pcm, either way, I’ll be adding it and my 97-2000 style steering wheel tomorrow 

The 97 to y2k steering wheel is my favorite. 

[rcLord510]

Just now, 94 olds vert said:

The 97 to y2k steering wheel is my favorite. 

Absolutely, me too. Unfortunately my car was given the 01-03 one, so I’m almost positive they’re swappable, and because of that this Daytona had a decent one, so I grabbed it, and I can’t wait to put it on