Human Posted March 8 Report Share Posted March 8 This used to happen infrequently, but it's becoming more of a regular thing. I unlock the car and pull the driver's door handle, and nothing happens. The door doesn't open. I can try it repeatedly, and it will finally open very easily. I can also open it easily with the inside door handle. It's most annoying, especially because I don't understand what's going on. Is the door just sagging on its hinges to the point that it's sticking, or is there something wrong with the latch mechanism. I'm afraid of pulling too hard on the handle and breaking it, because they're hard to come by these days. Any insights are welcome. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
94 olds vert Posted March 8 Report Share Posted March 8 Grease everything up. Make sure the linkage on the door handle is properly adjusted. Then see what happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schurkey Posted March 8 Report Share Posted March 8 1 hour ago, 94 olds vert said: Grease everything up. Make sure the linkage on the door handle is properly adjusted. Then see what happens. "Linkage adjustment" generally involves bending the linkage back to the shape it was supposed to be. The linkage rods are not strong enough, they bend. As they bend, the handle has to be lifted more and more to actually open the latch. When the handle reaches the limit of it's travel...you pull a little harder and the handle breaks. LOOK at the striker on the body. Is it wearing on top? If so, the hinges need to be re-bushed or adjusted. Lube everything...but lube is for "prevention", generally not for "cure". Robbie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Human Posted March 8 Author Report Share Posted March 8 15 hours ago, Schurkey said: "Linkage adjustment" generally involves bending the linkage back to the shape it was supposed to be. The linkage rods are not strong enough, they bend. As they bend, the handle has to be lifted more and more to actually open the latch. When the handle reaches the limit of it's travel...you pull a little harder and the handle breaks. LOOK at the striker on the body. Is it wearing on top? If so, the hinges need to be re-bushed or adjusted. Lube everything...but lube is for "prevention", generally not for "cure". Yes, there is wear on the cylindrical striker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pshojo Posted March 21 Report Share Posted March 21 I sort of have this issue as well, however when I shut the door it appears the door moves upward, almost like striker is not properly aligned, but I do t see any alignment available to adjust. Then when I open the door, the handle hangs up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbie Posted March 22 Report Share Posted March 22 I've had to repair the door handle linkages three or more times on my Regal, and I've had to realign/reseat the door latch on a few GMs after they've either stopped engaging properly, or have started hitting the receiver (not sure what it's properly called, but the nub in the door jam that catches and holds the door-end of the latching mechanism) You might be able to loosen some of the bolts that hold the latch itself, and you can usually wiggle it around a little to realign. Check for sagging on door itself, as well. Eliminate the possibility that there's any up/down play as you open/close. Sometimes there's a little bit of travel on the hinges themselves. I had a 2-door cavalier with saggy doors, once. It ended up being a question of loosening a few bolts and playing around with seating. Trial and error. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbie Posted March 22 Report Share Posted March 22 1 minute ago, Robbie said: I've had to repair the door handle linkages three or more times on my Regal, and I've had to realign/reseat the door latch on a few GMs after they've either stopped engaging properly, or have started hitting the receiver (not sure what it's properly called, but the nub in the door jam that catches and holds the door-end of the latching mechanism) You might be able to loosen some of the bolts that hold the latch itself, and you can usually wiggle it around a little to realign. Check for sagging on door itself, as well. Eliminate the possibility that there's any up/down play as you open/close. Sometimes there's a little bit of travel on the hinges themselves. I had a 2-door cavalier with saggy doors, once. It ended up being a question of loosening a few bolts and playing around with seating. Trial and error. The main failure point on W body door handle action, just to be clear, is the metal rod between the door handle and the latching mechanism itself. It stretches and bends with use. After three or four times of taking apart my door panels and screwing around, bending, having the rod break, etc, I've started adopting the practice of never pulling the door by the handle anymore. Gentle on the handle for releasing the latch, grabbing the top of the door and pulling it open from there instead. primergray and rich_e777 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Human Posted April 4 Author Report Share Posted April 4 So, time and weather converged this afternoon and I decided to take a look at the driver's door latch mechanism. I took the plate on the edge of the door that covers from the back of the door handle, down to the latch mechanism and discovered that one of the rods looked to be bent in an odd way. I went and got a "persuader" (aka a hammer), tapped it on the bend a few times, and then opened and closed the door several times in succession. It seems to be working now. How long that caveman fix lasts remains to be seen, but the problem is solved, at least for the moment. Robbie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTP091 Posted April 4 Report Share Posted April 4 On 3/7/2023 at 8:37 PM, Schurkey said: "Linkage adjustment" generally involves bending the linkage back to the shape it was supposed to be. Beat on it with a hammer. If only it was always that easy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solution rich_e777 Posted April 4 Solution Report Share Posted April 4 Vice grip pliers get the job done in a bit more controllable manner. Leave the cover off and watch the movement when pulling the outer handle, where the pivoting brass piece makes contact and then slides up and down the lever section. Rounding off the edge of that pivoting brass piece helps keep the cheap pot metal from wearing down over time as well. Some knowledgeable engineering oriented individual could probably come up with a wheel or bearing to mount there to prevent that sliding motion and let the doors open up smooth like a Cadillac. But GM went with this design and here we are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Human Posted April 5 Author Report Share Posted April 5 1 hour ago, rich_e777 said: Vice grip pliers get the job done in a bit more controllable manner. Leave the cover off and watch the movement when pulling the outer handle, where the pivoting brass piece makes contact and then slides up and down the lever section. Rounding off the edge of that pivoting brass piece helps keep the cheap pot metal from wearing down over time as well. Some knowledgeable engineering oriented individual could probably come up with a wheel or bearing to mount there to prevent that sliding motion and let the doors open up smooth like a Cadillac. But GM went with this design and here we are. Yeah, Vice Grips would have made more sense, but the hammer was a bit more satisfying. If I have to go back in and do it again, pliers will be the way to go. I'm also going to take the cover off of the passenger door to compare the rod over there with the one on the driver's side to understand how deformed it really is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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