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  2. Quaraxkad

    L67 swap A/C

    I'm not sure I'm 100% following your suggestions. It also conflicts with one of the *very* old L67 swap guides from motorswap.org, which says you need 3.4 DOHC (assuming LQ1?) lines. If *that* is true, then I already have all the correct lines because they are shared with the LH0 in the '92 Cutlass. I'm posting photos and what I've found so I can try to decipher the specific differences between at least these three models. 92 Cutlass, 3.1 LH0 and 3.4 LQ1: 92 Regal, 3.8 L27: 98 Lumina LTZ, 3.8 L36: All of these share the same evaporator, so that's not an issue. There are two condensors, they have slightly different dimensions (and may or may not physically fit if interchanged), and while the inlet and outlets apparently have the same fittings, they are positioned slightly different. 52452050 (89-93 and 94 Lumina): 52481282 (94-01): There are several different driers. Looks like all w-body up to 93, plus 94 Lumina all have the same one with threaded connectors, one male and one female. There's another from 94-97 that *looks* the same with one male and one female threaded, and a service port added. Possibly interchangable. The one in the 98 Lumina is unique to only the 98-01 Lumina and Monte, with one threaded and one o-ring compression fitting. These are obviously not interchangable without also changing both lines. 2724686 (87-93 and 94 Lumina): 2724929 (94-97): 01132767 (98-01 Lumina and Monte): The compressors probably have many versions, but just looking at these three cars we have: 89018893 in 89-93 and 94 Lumina, all without 3.8L. 89019355/1522130 in 89-94 with 3.8L. 89018897/1521662 in 96-04 with 3.8. Supercharged 3.8L 95's (and 94 S/C Regals) got their own compressor, 19169371/1520434. Between these there are at least three different fitting types: HD6, HR6, and V5. The aftermarket for these is all mixed up, showing multiple types available for the same car, so I don't know which is which! For comparison, here's the back of a V5: And an HR6 (suction and discharged are swapped but otherwise looks the same aside from being polished and the rotation which may be the part itself and/or just the photo position): Another labeled HR6 that looks completely different from the previous: And I couldn't find a clear picture of an HD6, it might just be a mislabeled HR6. Now for the lines... From the drier to the evaporator. 10223050 in 88-93 and 94 Lumina. 19244605 in 94-97 (also listed for 95-97 Lumina and Monte even though there's a separate part number for those). 10445945/1531213 in 95-01 Lumina and Monte. From the evaporator to the condenser. 10220973 in 89-93 and 94 Lumina. 1533130/10190636 in 94-97. 10407722 in 98-01 Lumina and Monte. From the compressor to condenser and drier. 14099685 in 92-94. 52362087/1530113 in 92-93 Regal 3.8L. 10226168/1530241 in 94-95 Regal 3.8L. 10407721 in 98-99 Regal and Lumina 3.8. Now... Have I gotten myself any closer to picking which components and lines I need?! I don't think so! I assume I will need a compressor out of another 3.8, maybe specifically a Series II 3.8, just to get it mounted to the engine?
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  5. Schurkey

    1995 Monte Carlo No Heat

    Point is, if the heater core is plugged with rust/scale/slime/garfelderfarb, the inlet should be hot, and the outlet cold. You're saying it's the other way around.
  6. pwmin

    1995 Monte Carlo No Heat

    I wouldn't think so since I get heat sometimes. But, I did re-do the intake manifolds and went back to stock on the heater lines. I had ghetto tapped into the coolant lines for a turbo that I took out and went back to one without water cooling. I don't think I messed anything up, but it's definitely possible.
  7. Schurkey

    1995 Monte Carlo No Heat

    Question, or statement? Are you sure you have the correct flow-path through the heater core? You haven't reversed the inlet vs. outlet...right?
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  9. bluecalais79

    Rear Speaker Change- 1994 Cutlass 2 Door

    The new speakers KICK BUTT. Infinity Primus. No looking back. As it turns out, 5 years ago I installed the Retrosound R-69Ns. One is still good but the other one blew out. I figured out which two wires were needed, don't use the blue and blue/white stripe wire set, they are not needed. Next up: replace the factory door speakers with the NOS ones I have in storage. All I have to do is find them...........
  10. 55trucker

    L67 swap A/C

    I went thru some of this non-compatible B.S some 11 years ago when I updated my A/C system to 134. I had already purchased a newer 134a compressor to replace the original R12 compressor that was leaking, at THAT time I didn't realize that the manifold hose assembly ends (fittings) had been redesigned for the 134a systems. Seeing as I HAD to purchase the 134a manifold assembly for the redesigned compressor... I did NOT want to replace all of the other hardware, the new manifold would NOT fasten to the older receiver/dryer because the threads were altered........ all of this fell into play as I had also updated the brake vacuum booster, the larger booster required a *newer* 134a liquid side A/C delivery pipe. The newer pipe was redesigned to go under & around the larger dia booster & would NOT fasten to the older design receiver/dryer, the fitting threads were not the same. I had to cut off the ends of the newer pipes & cut off the ends of the original & swap the old fittings to the new pipes & tig them into place. Hopefully you can avoid all of the B.S if you keep everything compatible. The 96 V5 compressor is near identical to the older V5 with respect to its *clocking*, what IS different (besides the rear housing casting) is the mounting points openings...where the older item has threads cut into the flanges the newer design sees thru openings with no threads cut.
  11. Black92GS

    L67 swap A/C

    When it comes to evaporators, the real test would be checking the part number for a 92 Regal with the 3800 against one for a 92 cutlass. If the part numbers match, you should be OK there. 88-95 Regals with the 2.8/3.1/3100 would have had the same AC setup as the other Ws of the same year. The 3800 series 1 cars, of which the 90-95 Regals were the only Ws to use it, used a completely different AC compressor and AC setup(Cycling clutch vs variable displacement compressor) Some parts might match and interchange with other Ws, while others won’t. Just something to keep in mind when cross shopping parts. AC parts for a 92 Regal with the 3.1 should all match a 92 cutlass, where as parts for a 92 Regal with the 3800 may not all be the same.
  12. Quaraxkad

    L67 swap A/C

    Reviewing some components other than lines... I just checked the part numbers (3093285) for the evaporator core, and they're the same part from '88-'01 in just about every W-body, including 92 Regal, 92 Cutlass, 98 Monte. So at least the fittings there should bolt up no problem from any donor. The condensors are the same part number (52452050) from 89-93 and 94 Lumina (did it still get R12 that year?), and a second part number (52481282) for the rest of 94-01. Aftermarket lists them both as having 3/4" - 16 thread inlet and outlets, good for R12 and R134, but different core thickness (18mm and 25mm), and slightly different core dimensions and styles. Other than that they seem to be the same, possibly interchangable. I already do have a brand new 89-93 condensor I bought several years ago and never installed.
  13. Black92GS

    L67 swap A/C

    One issue you may run into there is that 3800 series 1 powered cars all used the HR6 style AC compressor vs the V5 compressor that the 60 degree V6s and the 3800 series 2 cars used. A 1996 Buick Regal 3800 would have had a 3800 series 2 from the factory, so you might need to look for the AC components for one of those.
  14. pwmin

    1995 Monte Carlo No Heat

    The coolant was a little low, but didn't take much to top off the radiator. The overflow was almost completely empty, though. I did not run it again to see if that helped, so I'll do that later today, but I doubt it will help.
  15. 55trucker

    L67 swap A/C

    I'm going to differ with you on this Kyle....... what OP needs is the necessary A/C piping from a 1st Gen Regal with the 3.8 engine. If you intend on keeping as much as your car is currently fitted with you'll need the a/c compressor manifold hose assembly that was fitted to the 3.8 Regal & a new rebuilt pre 94 compressor. Everything prior to 94 is R12 based, everything post 93 is R134 based. When GM introduced 134 in 94 they changed ALL of the A/C line fittings thread pitch so NOTHING from prior & post can be used together. My suggestion to you is to keep your 92 car all 92, get that old 92 3.8 manifold hose assembly & purchase a new *rebuilt* pre 94 A/C compressor, even the manifold hose assembly changed in 94 because GM redesigned the back end of the compressor housing for 94 so the old manifold hose will not attach to the newer design compressor housing. Purchase yourself a new receiver/dryer as well as a new orifice tube. Go into Rockauto, search 92 Regal, they still house most of what you'll need.
  16. Bake82

    L67 swap A/C

    The best bet is 98/99 Lumina LTZ/Monte Carlo Z34 with the 3.8. Grab all the lines in the engine bay off one of those cars, 6-7 yrs ago I bought the hardlines that connect to the firewall directly from GM. Wonder if you could do the same? I also believe that lumina Z34's have same lines that can work, but I cannot confirm this.
  17. bluecalais79

    Rear Speaker Change- 1994 Cutlass 2 Door

    That would make sense. Those speakers arrive later today, I will get them in and hopefully I'll get some good results. Just looking for something that works well, nothing more than that.
  18. Quaraxkad

    L67 swap A/C

    I have an L67 swap in my 92 Cutlass, which I never bothered to hook up any of the A/C for. I want to do that now and am in the process of collecting parts, but I've found conflicting information on what lines are needed from what cars. I have all the original lines from the 3.1 LH0. I should have most of the lines from the 04 Impala SS donor. I think I have some other random lines I may have grabbed from junkyards while working on the swap years ago. Does anybody know for sure what A/C lines will fit?
  19. pwmin

    1995 Monte Carlo No Heat

    I checked it out and everything was working correctly as far as the blend doors goes. However, the inlet side of the heater core is cold, but the outlet side is hot? I'll check the coolant level. It's not overheating, but it gets warm. I wasn't getting any heat this time, but I do sometimes.
  20. Black92GS

    Rear Speaker Change- 1994 Cutlass 2 Door

    I recall there was an optional "Audio Bass Control" slider available on the 1st gen cutlass, but I don't know if 94s got it. I'm only speculating as i've never seen it one in person... but i'd venture a guess it involved some sort of bi-amp setup that allowed you to fade the sound towards the front, while maintaining some form of bass output from the woofer portion of the rear 6x9s. That would definitely require separate wiring pairs from the amp to separate out the woofer from the mid/tweeter. The normal coaxial 6x9 would only have a single wiring pair from the HU, with the tweeter portion being tied into the tinsel leads from the woofer portion. Makes me wonder if some cars were pre-wired for it, but ended up feeding both sets of wires with the same signal on cars that didn't come equipped with it?
  21. bluecalais79

    Rear Speaker Change- 1994 Cutlass 2 Door

    I've got a correct AM/FM Stereo CD player in this car; not original as it left the factory with the AM/FM Stereo Cassette unit. There is a separate Bass control on the CD player radio but even with 2 of the 4 wires wires pulled it seemed to make no difference in the sound coming out of the speakers. The speakers arrive Wednesday so I'll be finding out in short order if I made the right move in eliminating the unwanted Vibrations. Regarding the Retrosound R-69N, Crutchfield lists this in their description: "The single R-69N 6"x9" speaker is designed for a classic car with only one speaker opening on its dash or rear deck. The woofer features dual voice coils, each one connected to its own tweeter. Your stereo receiver connects to both voice coils, so you get a stereo mix from a single speaker. In effect, you get two 2-way speakers in one frame, for modern sound in your vintage application." This is an interesting concept if there is one speaker in the back, but since I have 2, I'm interested to see how the Infinity speakers sound with 2 of the 4 wires on either side being hooked up. Stay tuned..........
  22. primergray

    Sitting 1995 Regal GS

    Yeah, that makes it sound even more like the brake lights are the turn signal switch in the column... 1994-2001 Gen 1 and Gen 1.5 Turn Signal Switch Replacement | W-BodyTech Forums But that shifting thing...are you able to turn the key and move the steering wheel? Can you shift out of park with the steering wheel unlocked but with engine off?
  23. Black92GS

    Rear Speaker Change- 1994 Cutlass 2 Door

    Any chance your Cutlass has that separate bass control slider? This might sound like (or be) a stupid question on my part....but were the factory speakers truly a dual voice coil setup, or were they coaxial drivers wired to be run off of an active crossover setup? I ask because all of my Ws have only ever had a single pair of wires driving each rear speaker, including my 92 Cutlass. What my cutlass didn't have was that separate bass control slider. Makes me wonder if those systems used some sort of active crossover and a separate amp to drive the woofer portion of the rear 6x9s separately from the rest of the speakers.
  24. Amanita

    Rear Speaker Change- 1994 Cutlass 2 Door

    I went through the same issues you did a while ago, except I actually did go with dual coil speakers. I went with Retrosound R-69Ns. They're pretty thin as they're intended to be dashboard speakers, but they sound fine and were better than the speakers I replaced which didn't make any noise at all by that point.
  25. 55trucker

    Rear Speaker Change- 1994 Cutlass 2 Door

    *Dual* coils are common with passive subs, in an arrangement where the amp is driving a pair of them in a stereo setup, they can be wired in a parallel arrangement, series paralleled, both will deliver a different wattage power output depending on what the user is looking for.
  26. bluecalais79

    Rear Speaker Change- 1994 Cutlass 2 Door

    Spoke to someone at Crutchfield yesterday, they are dual wired since the factory speakers came with 2 coils. With the speakers these days having only one coil, I will only need to hook up 2 of the 4 leads. The lead I do not use can just be disconnected at the plug (good thing I had the sense to re-wire the leads with plugs instead of not using them). I went for a set of Infinity speakers this time around and I sure do hope they last longer than the prior ones.
  27. 55trucker

    Rear Speaker Change- 1994 Cutlass 2 Door

    dual wired?......as in bi-wired, as in ...separates?
  28. bluecalais79

    Rear Speaker Change- 1994 Cutlass 2 Door

    Time for replacement speakers again already! Only 5 years and the ones I bought blew out. Junk. WHat's a problem is the fact these are dual wired, I'm now having a tough time finding anyone who makes that.
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  30. pwmin

    1995 Monte Carlo No Heat

    I haven't replaced anything yet. TBH, I don't have much motivation right now with it getting dark early and being cold. I'm hoping to look at it Sunday since I'll actually have a whole day to myself (I think)
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