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Sometimes I struggle with what "w-body" means?


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#21 Nas Escobar

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Posted 17 July 2017 - 06:34 PM

A friend of mine once said that W-body means widebody...

 

I had to tell him that GM chassis designations had no real meaning and were just there as an identifier for the chassis.

 

There is nothing more to the the designation of W than W itself. Unless you know of the prototype designation GM10. But even that does not suggest more than the preproduction test mules of the mid '80's.

 

That's a common misconception, that the W stands for  "Widebody". Truth be told, the 1st generation W's were actually narrowbodied. The 2nd gens were the ones that grew a bit wider. By the 3rd gen, the cars were considered "full size" rather than mid size. For what it's worth, the W body is part of the RWD A body (later G) lineage. The model names of our cars stem from cars on the A body platform in the late 60's and early 70's, hence its roots as a mid size car since the W was the chassis that successfully "killed" the RWD mid size program. The FWD A body tried but failed. 


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Posted 17 September 2017 - 03:15 AM

That's a common misconception, that the W stands for "Widebody". Truth be told, the 1st generation W's were actually narrowbodied. The 2nd gens were the ones that grew a bit wider. By the 3rd gen, the cars were considered "full size" rather than mid size. For what it's worth, the W body is part of the RWD A body (later G) lineage. The model names of our cars stem from cars on the A body platform in the late 60's and early 70's, hence its roots as a mid size car since the W was the chassis that successfully "killed" the RWD mid size program. The FWD A body tried but failed.

I worked in the pre-prototype phase of the first gen Ws, aka GM-10. I was told by my engineer that the W stood for Worldcar, and in fact we had mid-sized/priced cars from all over the world that we were evaluating and examining for inspiration. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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Posted 17 September 2017 - 07:01 AM

I worked in the pre-prototype phase of the first gen Ws, aka GM-10. I was told by my engineer that the W stood for Worldcar, and in fact we had mid-sized/priced cars from all over the world that we were evaluating and examining for inspiration. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

In those times, didn't GM simply name a chassis after a letter in the alphabet? I thought the designations didn't mean much more than a simple identifier. If that's not the case, what did J, H, K, B etc. Stand for? Anyways, if GM really intended that chassis to be a world car, they dropped the ball immensely. I think the J body was the closest GM got at that time to having a world chassis. They sold those in Korea and Europe. The "Cavalier" name was even used in the UK for Vauxhall's version of the J
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Posted 17 September 2017 - 01:16 PM

I'd like to know what "Y" and "F" meant.

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Posted 17 September 2017 - 02:14 PM

The W-Body program failed at a number of its goals. I was in the interior trim group where our goal was to have no exposed screws, including the carpet retainer, but that didn't happen. I would say in general, no, the letters don't mean anything. But sometimes they do. They had to skip a bunch of letters to get to W; why? And the group that was next to ours was working on GM's minivan--the M-body. Coincidence? I think not. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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Posted 17 September 2017 - 02:47 PM

That's awesome insight. Any other stories? Feel free to make a thread about it, I think everyone here would love to hear stuff like that.


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Posted 17 September 2017 - 03:49 PM

That's awesome insight. Any other stories? Feel free to make a thread about it, I think everyone here would love to hear stuff like that.

I bet there are some great stories, and possible explanations for some of the oddities
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