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#1 Dark Ride

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Posted 06 December 2017 - 11:05 PM

Can it be done? My current master cylinder is hitting my downpipe on the bottom lines. Obviously the 2nd gens only have a front and a rear port that feeds into the abs module, which splits them into four there. Since this is a non abs car, is there any reason I couldn't just split the 2 lines coming out?

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Posted 06 December 2017 - 11:44 PM

Second Gens have separate prop valves further back in the system inline. I'll bet it's the same pressure on both of those lines.


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Posted 06 December 2017 - 11:46 PM

That's right, I remember that on my gtp. Is it just on the rears? Installing those inline wouldn't be difficult.

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Posted 06 December 2017 - 11:50 PM

I haven't been into the front brake lines on the Monte, Can't imagine why there would be front ones.


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Posted 07 December 2017 - 01:49 AM

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Posted 07 December 2017 - 02:29 PM

I used a F body master cylinder on my TGP. its angled nice and kinda kicks it up some.

 

I always wanted to try a J/L/N body one as it would in theory work just the same with factory lines, but just be kicked up a little bit.

 

pictures of your setup? 


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Posted 07 December 2017 - 03:03 PM

Now there's an idea I hadn't considered. I'll take a pictureof what I'm dealing with but yeah an angled master cylinder would solve my problem. I never even thought of that. Do you have a picture of yours?

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Posted 08 December 2017 - 04:37 AM

Found this, Miko did it. http://www.w-body.co...cutlass/page-20
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Posted 08 December 2017 - 02:36 PM

Thanks, I'll have to read a bit more about what he did there.

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Posted 08 December 2017 - 05:44 PM

it looks like he did precisely what you were talking about. He used T fittings.

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Posted 09 December 2017 - 03:24 AM

Interesting. I didn't read the whole thread but it didn't look like he used the prop valves on his. Just used the gen 2/3 master cylinder. According to his research, the gen 2 master cylinder bore is also 1mm larger. I'm a little confused on the angled master cylinder Chris mentioned. I pulled up a couple of camaro master cylinders, but those appeared to get their angle from the booster/firewall. Mounting one to our horizontal setup wouldn't provide any more clearance unless I'm missing something, which is entirely possible, I don't know much about them.

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Posted 11 December 2017 - 02:24 AM

So does anyone have any other ideas other than gen 2 mc? I would love an angled mc to give me more clearance but not sure how it would work on our cars.

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Posted 11 December 2017 - 02:26 AM

Edit: dupe

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