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#1 Turbo v-sick

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Posted 27 November 2013 - 04:29 PM

It sure would be nice to know where these are hiding...

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Posted 27 November 2013 - 04:45 PM

I seem to recall someone posting a picture of one scrapped at a u-pullit yard not too long ago.

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Posted 27 November 2013 - 04:56 PM

Yes I remember that one too and yes It could have been a pace car we'll never know for sure. IIRC it's build date was 5/89. I bought seat covers and several other items from that car. These on the other hand have pre-production rims and I believe were mostly built towards the end of 1988 early 1989.

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Posted 27 November 2013 - 09:01 PM

I seem to recall someone posting a picture of one scrapped at a u-pullit yard not too long ago.

Here it is.

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Posted 28 November 2013 - 01:20 AM

I'm curious if the pictures above are all the same car and they threw different vinyl on it for the various events it paced. If not, then they produced several pre-production cars with that weird version of crosslaces on them.

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Posted 28 November 2013 - 02:03 AM

I'm curious if the pictures above are all the same car and they threw different vinyl on it for the various events it paced. If not, then they produced several pre-production cars with that weird version of crosslaces on them.

I thought that as well. The second from last has the Daytona 500 car in the back ground and I did confirm all these pictures were taken the same day.

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Posted 28 November 2013 - 03:28 AM

I think those crosslaces are GTA wheels.

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Posted 28 November 2013 - 04:37 AM

No, WAY different than GTA wheels.

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Posted 29 November 2013 - 04:57 AM

Oh yeah, way different. Here is a pic of a GTA wheel. Attached File  $(KGrHqF,!qUFF60bGnbgBRkwWwT+sg~~60_57.JPG   253.96KB   11 downloads

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Posted 29 November 2013 - 06:13 AM

Yeah, you can see the deeper lip.

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Posted 29 November 2013 - 04:22 PM

The rears didn't have the deeper lip, but the center of these look more like the pace car wheels than the TGP wheels, which are quite different.

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Posted 30 November 2013 - 01:26 AM

I love all pace cars, wish I could fine more of the W Body ones still out there...

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#13 ManicMechanic

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Posted 30 November 2013 - 05:47 AM

Ed, you may know him from somewhere else but a guy that goes by Lee93 is on GMsquarebody and we have been posting in my pace/official truck thread quite a bit, you should check it out again. I sent you the pics of his 1985 Indy Hauler.

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Posted 30 November 2013 - 05:54 PM

I thought that as well. The second from last has the Daytona 500 car in the back ground and I did confirm all these pictures were taken the same day.

I skimmed through when posting as always and didn't even pay attention to the 2nd one making a cameo in the background of one of the pics.You probably already know this but the Black car from this car & driver article has the same pre-production wheels on it as well as dual outlet exhaust tips. I'm glad they didn't give us the same plenum as that car. :Phttp://img223.imagev...2_122_117lo.jpg

Edited by mfewtrail, 30 November 2013 - 06:06 PM.

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Posted 01 December 2013 - 03:19 AM

I skimmed through when posting as always and didn't even pay attention to the 2nd one making a cameo in the background of one of the pics.You probably already know this but the Black car from this car & driver article has the same pre-production wheels on it as well as dual outlet exhaust tips. I'm glad they didn't give us the same plenum as that car. :Phttp://img223.imagev...2_122_117lo.jpg

What plenum? I think I like the quad exhaust outlet better. And those wheels look like they have the lip of the GTA rears. Hm

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Posted 01 December 2013 - 09:18 PM

You probably already know this but the Black car from this car & driver article has the same pre-production wheels on it as well as dual outlet exhaust tips. I'm glad they didn't give us the same plenum as that car. :Phttp://img223.imagev...2_122_117lo.jpg

Yes got that one in the collection. It appears after the GTA crosslaces were replaced with a metric lug pattern that they went through a few subtle design changes before settling on the production style. It's hard to tell but it looks as if the Pikes Peak prototype had these rims early in life but now sports production rims? I have noticed differences between the 89-90 nascar pace cars as well. The 89's had nascar on the drivers lower hood vs the 90's that were on the drivers bumper cover. Also the 89 Daytona cars only were missing the black trim under the headlights on the bumper cover that production and later pace cars received. To my knowledge the first 7 pace cars were cloth no sunroof and I would seem to think no sunroof on all pace cars to accommodate the light bar. One could also "speculate" that the 7 Daytona cars were the first 7 for the 89 model year with 1G5WP14V4KF271829 that is cloth no sunroof at #8 and first on Matts List of 89's. This would correspond with the ASC car code of GPT-9 for car 284920. All pace cars and event cars for the 89 Daytona were supplied by Pontiac's show car division. The TGP was utilized in several Winston Cup, Bush Grand National and Arca races throughout the 89-90 season and from what I've gathered some of these pace cars were pulled off showroom floors decaled up used and returned to dealers for resale. To my understanding the Daytona Specific TGP was auctioned off for charity after the race. It's unclear if the back up pace car was auctioned or utilized for the 90 500. The TGP was used in all the races at Daytona for speedweeks in 1989 and 1990 for a total of 8 each year. Any thoughts/inputs or corrections are welcome as not all of this is written in stone and I would like to hear thoughts from the community of what they may think. Here are a couple of youtube vids one of the 89 Winston 500 @ Talladega and the 90 First Union 400 @ North Wilksboro In North Carolina and last the Arca 200 @ Michigan in 90. All Have TGP pace cars... Also with a quick youtube search you will find that a TGP Paced many of the races for winston cup and the Bush Grand National series in 89-90. Along with several Arca races during that time frame...

Edited by Turbo v-sick, 01 December 2013 - 11:13 PM.


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Posted 02 December 2013 - 02:39 PM

I would imagine they had 1 car for each race, especially back then. I can't recall any 2nd Gen Pace Car getting re-labeled for another race, but I could be wrong. Awesome pictures, where did you find these?

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#18 Turbo v-sick

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Posted 02 December 2013 - 05:31 PM

I would imagine they had 1 car for each race, especially back then. I can't recall any 2nd Gen Pace Car getting re-labeled for another race, but I could be wrong. Awesome pictures, where did you find these?

I have had these for a while, I had wondered if the community had ever seen them. I just re-found when looking up some pikes peak TGP pictures. I've always wondered why their are no TGP Pace cars for sale/viewing. I have gone through most of the 1990 Winston cup season and found the TGP Paced these races.Daytona 500 02-18-90Pontiac Excitement 400 Richmond 02-25-90Transouth 500 Darlington 04-01-90Valleydale meats 500 Bristol 04-08-90First Union 400 North Wilksboro NC 04-22-90Winston 500 Talladega 05-06-90Pepsi 400 Daytona 07-07-90Diehard 500 Talladega 07-29-90Champion Spark Plug 400 Michigan 08-19-90Tyson Holly Farms 400 North Wilksboro 09-30-90Atlanta Journal 500 Atlanta 11-18-90There were a few races in the 1990 season I could not see the pace car so I could not make confirmation. I will work on the 89 season for Winston Cup and BGN series. If time permits I will also search more arca races as well.

Edited by Turbo v-sick, 02 December 2013 - 05:49 PM.


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Posted 02 December 2013 - 06:10 PM

Awesome. In addition to the one found in a j/y a number of years ago, I just remembered that there was a member who had one as well. And from what I recall, it was also the pace car shown in the movie Days of Thunder. IIRC it was the Daytona race, but I can't seem to remember. It's been a while since I've watched it. Larry M was his name, and the car got totaled in an accident probably 5-6 years ago.

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Posted 02 December 2013 - 06:13 PM

Ahh. From searching, it appears it wasn't an "actual" pace car, just used for the movie. I can't seem to link the thread for some reason, something is up with my browser and this site..

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1994 Lumina Euro Sedan - 144k - K&N, Monte Z34 wheels, Z34 grille, Small Touches - Sold 3/11/07 RIP 8/12/11






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