Tubular Front Control Arms- 1st gen

[3.1cutlass]

Is this something that can be purchased from your site at a later date as well? Im broke and dont work except in the summer months.

[dohc v6]

Is this something that can be purchased from your site at a later date as well? Im broke and dont work except in the summer months.

Yes I will be adding it soon.

How much not powdercoated?

Not sure I want to do them un PC. But if you must save money then $300

Mark

More pics.

[mra32]

What would it take to see square tube to mount the sway bar than plate?

[dohc v6]

Guys these will take about 3 weeks to make. There is no GB required. Purchase from my site when you are ready.

Mark-OEM

[White93z34]

a few questions:

- how will these mount to the cradle? as in will we need to use spacers since the helm joints take up less room then the OE cradle bushings.

- is the ball joint angle changed from the OE arms? is it changed for lowering? what about stock height cars, can I use these with no ill effects on my suspension geometry if i keep stock ride height?

- I don't suppose there is a option to buy these with poly bushings rather then the helm joints?

[xtremerevolution]

a few questions:

- how will these mount to the cradle? as in will we need to use spacers since the helm joints take up less room then the OE cradle bushings.

- is the ball joint angle changed from the OE arms? is it changed for lowering? what about stock height cars, can I use these with no ill effects on my suspension geometry if i keep stock ride height?

- I don't suppose there is a option to buy these with poly bushings rather then the helm joints?

I too was wondering about that. I suppose there's a reason why the stock arms have bushings.

Wouldn't a marginal amount of deflection be a good thing? Some of us have winters to worry about. Wouldn't poly bushings be cheaper than helm joints?

What is the benefit to changing the balljoint angle? Haven't we already concluded that the balljoint angle doesn't affect anything on lowered cars?

[slick]

The helm joints allow you to move the arm in and out, so you can get whatever alignment you want. Also helps account for if your subframe is not aligned 100% correctly.

As seen in the ones I have (http://www.umiperformance.com/catalo.../2300a_LRG.jpg), mine have those metal inserts that space out to each side, so it sits tightly in the cradle mounts.

Or, someone run out and measure the spacing. If so, these could work for you http://www.umiperformance.com/catalo...roducts_id=262

[xtremerevolution]

The helm joints allow you to move the arm in and out, so you can get whatever alignment you want. Also helps account for if your subframe is not aligned 100% correctly.

As seen in the ones I have (http://www.umiperformance.com/catalo.../2300a_LRG.jpg), mine have those metal inserts that space out to each side, so it sits tightly in the cradle mounts.

Or, someone run out and measure the spacing. If so, these could work for you http://www.umiperformance.com/catalo...roducts_id=262

I have a feeling not too many people will be thrilled about $120 bushings to go along with $350 control arms, plus shipping. That will ease you well over $500.

[slick]

Probably not.

No matter, I'm sure he already has a solution for mounting them.

[xtremerevolution]

Probably not.

No matter, I'm sure he already has a solution for mounting them.

What I was trying to get at earlier is the possibility of having two options; one with solid helm joints and one with poly bushings.

The solid helm joints probably would still be cheaper though.

[CSI_MuNkY]

It would not be difficult for him to fab up the A-arms and 2 different inserts, one with bushing, one with helm joint.

Jamie

[dohc v6]

Heim joints just allow for a much easier alignment. I am making the sleeves this weekend for them so that there is no space. I know I forgot to post a pic of that. Yes you can use these with stock springs. It will give you a little more negative camber but you can compensate that with the heim joints. Thats why the heim joints are so much better. For the price I am charging you are getting a bargain. these are not the easiest things in the world to make. None the less all questions are fair game. Also if you run my top plates your even better with tuning the front end perfect.

Mark-OEM

[xtremerevolution]

How do you plan to keep the control arm from moving side to side on the subframe with such a narrow mount? The bushings are naturally much longer.

[dohc v6]

Once the balljoint is hooked in the arm is then solidly mounted to the car it cant slide forward.

Mark

[CSI_MuNkY]

How do you plan to keep the control arm from moving side to side on the subframe with such a narrow mount? The bushings are naturally much longer.

Do you mean side to side or front to back?

Side to side the Bolt going through them will line them up they won't move left to right.

Front to back;

Heim joints just allow for a much easier alignment. I am making the sleeves this weekend for them so that there is no space.

Jamie