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    Re: Experience in a book

    i didn't even know that page existed....
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    Re: Experience in a book

    Quote Originally Posted by jeremy
    Quote Originally Posted by slick
    http://www.w-body.com/forum/index.php?action=articles

    This is what Brian is speaking of.

    Besides for the fancy animated picture, and the article that Brian put in there, there's absolutely nothing. This has been something that people could add to for a while, yet nobody has done it.
    I will agree that I don't think that a book is necesary, but I will also go on and say that I think the article section you posted the link to isn't really necessary either. Most of the common how-to articles are in the FAQ section. There are a lot of good write ups in there and not really sure why the article section is needed as it would just contain duplicate information
    What would be nice is if people updated and redid some of the FAQ's with pictures and step-by-step instructions.

    Some of them can be very vague.
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    Re: Experience in a book

    Quote Originally Posted by xtremerevolution
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    if people put 1/5 the effort into expanding on the article sections of the forum instead of making a book we'd be in good shape!!!
    What's the difference? Having a forum that you have to search through that's only hosted in one place, vs having a book that you can distribute with the same information and is easier to search through and more organized? That was part of the reason.
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    Re: Experience in a book

    Since Luke and I have already decided that the content that would go in this book (or in the w-body website) (http://www.w-body.com/forum/index.php?topic=84341.15) is necessary and important, I'd like to go through with this book. Luke would also be able to use the contents of the book in his website if he chooses to.

    Luke, I sent you a PM about this a couple of days ago. Would it be possible to create a section in the forum for discussion about this book? I'm sure at least a handful of members here are interested in helping out, and it would be nice to have a place to bounce back ideas, suggest revisions, propose content, and so forth. This is my project and my choice, so I'm not asking for help from any of the admins or moderators on this board with the exception of creating a section to organized the discussion.

    I know Robert and Buck were interested in helping out with this. If anyone else would like to help, let me know. Thanks.

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    Re: Experience in a book

    since it's been a few months, i'll just restate i'm still up for it.
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    Re: Experience in a book

    I will gladly provide some help.
    In particular I can help with the graphic design aspects of this project.

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    Re: Experience in a book

    Quote Originally Posted by xtremerevolution
    Since Luke and I have already decided that the content that would go in this book (or in the w-body website) (http://www.w-body.com/forum/index.php?topic=84341.15) is necessary and important, I'd like to go through with this book. Luke would also be able to use the contents of the book in his website if he chooses to.
    When did I declare that it was "necessary and important"? I said that it could be used as a supplement to the site, and then said that it's probably not necessary.
    Also, I'm hesitant to create another board for you to use, as that's another board that my staff will have to police if things get out of hand. I haven't made a decision on this yet, let me think about it.

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    Re: Experience in a book

    Quote Originally Posted by LukeZ34
    Quote Originally Posted by xtremerevolution
    Since Luke and I have already decided that the content that would go in this book (or in the w-body website) (http://www.w-body.com/forum/index.php?topic=84341.15) is necessary and important, I'd like to go through with this book. Luke would also be able to use the contents of the book in his website if he chooses to.
    When did I declare that it was "necessary and important"? I said that it could be used as a supplement to the site, and then said that it's probably not necessary.
    Also, I'm hesitant to create another board for you to use, as that's another board that my staff will have to police if things get out of hand. I haven't made a decision on this yet, let me think about it.
    Luke, please re-read my post. I said the content, key word being content is necessary, not the book. The book I want to put together is just another location for that content, such as your website.

    If you don't create another board for me to use, I'll just find a random one to use here that would be as appropriate as possible. I figured that would get out of hand, which is why I kindly requested a separate one. You now have two other members here that would like to see this happen and would like to help, and possibly more. I'm not entirely sure how this would do more harm than good.

    I don't need people policing any threads pertaining to my book; I'm perfectly capable of keeping the threads on track, if your concern is more effort from your staff's part.

    BTW, your site does not have the information that the book will hold. It will take you weeks if not months to put together the kind of information I want in this book, which will in no way resemble a service manual. That's why I want to get started; because I can have the content available before you do.

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    Re: Experience in a book

    I still think it's a good idea. Not only would it be a great one-stop place for diagnosis, but it'd be great and very convenient to have all the information in one place, for newbs and enthusiasts alike.

    The way the forum is set up now, it's a crapshoot. The search function sucks. There's no FAQ. The ONLY way I have learned anything about these cars is by being a total nerd and reading every thread for the last 3 years.

    Not to mention the fact that the same problems get asked in new threads over and over and over again. With something for people to go to with their problems, all of this useless clutter would be demolished. The only questions being asked would be new ones, and those answers could be added as well!

    It just seems like pulling teeth to get simple answers, where with a one-stop supplement, you could find out for yourself.

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    Re: Experience in a book

    Uh.... There IS an FAQ section, Buck, one that we add great threads to on a fairly regular basis..

    http://www.w-body.com/forum/index.php?board=15.0
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    Re: Experience in a book

    My bad, but it's still far from all inclusive
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    Re: Experience in a book

    Quote Originally Posted by GP1138
    Uh.... There IS an FAQ section, Buck, one that we add great threads to on a fairly regular basis..

    http://www.w-body.com/forum/index.php?board=15.0
    What makes you think that the FAQ section is organized, thorough, and a suitable place to contain the content that would go in such a book? What makes you think people search the FAQ section when they have problems? There isn't a table of contents, it isn't organized, and it will be even more difficult to find the information you're looking for as more threads get added. That's why it seems Luke wants the renovation; because the FAQ and articles sections in the forum simply don't cut it. He wants to be able to integrate the website, which will provide the content and articles, and link them to threads on the forum for further detail and discussion.

    Either way, I'm going to start this book. You can argue with me all you want but in the end this will get published.

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    Re: Experience in a book

    I search the FAQ section with no problems.

    You can do whatever you want, but don't expect it to be officially endorsed by this board. If it's well-put together I'll definitely get a copy, but I don't think it should be the only alternative.
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    Re: Experience in a book

    Quote Originally Posted by GP1138
    I search the FAQ section with no problems.

    You can do whatever you want, but don't expect it to be officially endorsed by this board. If it's well-put together I'll definitely get a copy, but I don't think it should be the only alternative.
    I never said it should be the only alternative, and I certainly never asked for it to be officially endorsed. This is something I want to put effort into for other w-body owners that I will also gladly provide to any other w-body related sites. This board may not endorse the book, but I'll be glad to endorse the board in the book once its complete, since that's where the content is coming from.

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    Re: Experience in a book

    Should I keep waiting, or just start on this thing?

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