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    Re: Help Trans won't shift out of 1st gear

    I have the 94 FSM in front of me too.

    How fast have you gone in first? fast enough to know if you still have fourth gear?

    btw, when you were driving it, were the roads slippery as hell? maybe too slippery to tell between 1 and 2?

    I'd like to ask also when was the last time you changed your fluid.


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    Re: Help Trans won't shift out of 1st gear

    Quote Originally Posted by Brian P
    Tonight I'll check what the service manual states, but I think Ken has the right idea. Luckily you do have reverse so that eliminates the chance that the reaction drum shredded (hard part).
    Thanks Brian. Please let me know if you find anything that might be useful.
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    Re: Help Trans won't shift out of 1st gear

    I went to Consumer Guide Automotive and picked out these two excerpts for a '94 Cutlass Supreme trouble spots:

    1) Automatic Transmission - 4T60-E transmissions may drop out of drive while cruising, shift erratically, have no third or fourth gear, or no second and third gear because of a bad ground connection for the shift solenoids. ('91 - '94)

    2) Automatic Transmission - Model TH-125 or 440-T4 automatic transmissions may shift late or not upshift at all. The problem is a stuck throttle valve inside the transmission. ('90 - '94)

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    Re: Help Trans won't shift out of 1st gear

    Quote Originally Posted by Crazy K
    I have the 94 FSM in front of me too.

    How fast have you gone in first? fast enough to know if you still have fourth gear?

    btw, when you were driving it, were the roads slippery as hell? maybe too slippery to tell between 1 and 2?

    I'd like to ask also when was the last time you changed your fluid.
    I was doing 30 in first gear and it still wouldn't shift. There was no snow, slush, or ice on the roads the last time I drove it (unlike now). As mentioned, it was last changed just under 35,000 miles ago, and it's due to have new fluid and filter. Fluid is still a healthy red color, and not a burnt brownish color.

    Hopefully I get a chance to test drive it again before the next wave of snow hits us in Chicago.
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    Re: Help Trans won't shift out of 1st gear

    Quote Originally Posted by Lumineer
    I went to Consumer Guide Automotive and picked out these two excerpts for a '94 Cutlass Supreme trouble spots:

    1) Automatic Transmission - 4T60-E transmissions may drop out of drive while cruising, shift erratically, have no third or fourth gear, or no second and third gear because of a bad ground connection for the shift solenoids. ('91 - '94)

    2) Automatic Transmission - Model TH-125 or 440-T4 automatic transmissions may shift late or not upshift at all. The problem is a stuck throttle valve inside the transmission. ('90 - '94)

    Thanks for the FYI. If it's a ground outside the tranny, I can take care of that. However, replacing a shift solenoid inside the tranny itself is another story.
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    Re: Help Trans won't shift out of 1st gear

    OK - just drove the cutlass after disconnecting the battery for a while. The cutlass still won't shift out of first gear, and does reverse just fine. HOWEVER, now my speedometer isn't working!!!

    [RANT]Fucking cheap ass plastic hood release broke when I went to open the hood to reconnect the battery!!! Hooray for pliers... [/RANT]
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    Re: Help Trans won't shift out of 1st gear - UPDATE PAGE 2

    VSS or Computer!
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    Re: Help Trans won't shift out of 1st gear - UPDATE PAGE 2

    fun.


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    Re: Help Trans won't shift out of 1st gear - UPDATE PAGE 2

    BAM!! Who called the VSS? Lets hope it really is that easy!!
    Yeah, it's still on the road. 218K+ (WTF)



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    Re: Help Trans won't shift out of 1st gear - UPDATE PAGE 2

    Quote Originally Posted by Brian P
    BAM!! Who called the VSS? Lets hope it really is that easy!!
    me?

    question. When the car was acting up, was the speedo giving low or off readings at all?

    Psyhomatt's CS had a pcm that was dieing he said the speedo was kinda jumping around.... like it was would snap down ten miles or so slower than he was going but snap right back....


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    Re: Help Trans won't shift out of 1st gear - UPDATE PAGE 2

    How difficult is it to change a VSS? I know its in a shit spot on the transmission. My guess is remove the alt?

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    Re: Help Trans won't shift out of 1st gear - UPDATE PAGE 2

    Piece of cake to change.
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    Re: Help Trans won't shift out of 1st gear - UPDATE PAGE 2

    Yeah, it's still on the road. 218K+ (WTF)



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    Re: Help Trans won't shift out of 1st gear - UPDATE PAGE 2

    I'd start with computer first...That's what was wrong with my van when it did the same thing.
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    Re: Help Trans won't shift out of 1st gear - UPDATE PAGE 2

    I've read before that the 94/95 PCMs had a habit of doing weird things and otherwise failing.
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