Air Conditioning charge points

[GP1138]

And, I don't understand why nobody wants to convert their cars to 134A. It isn't that big of a deal.

x2.. I've never noticed a huge difference between R12 and 134a.

[19Cutlass94]

And, I don't understand why nobody wants to convert their cars to 134A. It isn't that big of a deal.

x2.. I've never noticed a huge difference between R12 and 134a.

Only difference Ive noticed is R12 is much colder.

[mfewtrail]

Only difference Ive noticed is R12 is much colder.

Are you going by "feel" or actual measurements? The typical difference is so minute, that a human cannot discern the difference. If you could actually feel a difference, chances are something isn't operating 100% and causing reduced performance.

[joey b]

the difference is quite large actually. I believe the output from the vent is 5 to 10* colder with R12. You can convert a R12 system to R134 because they run on at the same ambient temperature and internal pressures.

[Addicted to eaton]

my gp doesnt blow out cold at all but its not really hot.. maybe just a charge?

[MonteCarloDude]

And, I don't understand why nobody wants to convert their cars to 134A. It isn't that big of a deal.

x2.. I've never noticed a huge difference between R12 and 134a.

Only difference Ive noticed is R12 is much colder.

QFT.

[Addicted to eaton]

WTF does that mean

[shadow]

I can take a picture tomorrow for you showing where the ports are.

Thanks man I appreciate it.

[5speedz34]

WTF does that mean

Quoted For Truth.

Shadow, do you have a TGP?

[jeremy]

WTF does that mean

it's for those with HS diplomas to know and those with GEDs to wonder about

[5speedz34]

LOL.

No need to hate on people with GED's.

[mfewtrail]

the difference is quite large actually. I believe the output from the vent is 5 to 10* colder with R12. You can convert a R12 system to R134 because they run on at the same ambient temperature and internal pressures.

Joey, speaking from my own experience, there isn't a whole lot of difference. The last R134a converted cars(1988 Chevrolet pickup & an older Ford T-bird) that I've bothered to measure vent outlet temperatures on were 38*F to 40*F when the ambient temperature was around 85*F. I haven't measured an R12 car in a while, but I honestly cannot "feel" a difference between my TGP with R12 and my other GP that hs R134a in it. I'll measure vent temperatures on both soon...they both blow ice cold!

Shadow, here's the picture.


The one with the blue cap there is the low side port that you'll need to use for recharging. Your caps are likely black in color if your car hasn't been converted yet.

[5speedz34]

They change the caps when they retrofit?

[mfewtrail]

They change the caps when they retrofit?

You have screw on R134a fittings when you retrofit and the kits that the fittings come in usually have red & blue color coded caps with them to designate the high(red) and low(blue) sides from one another. The stock caps are typically just black in color.

[5speedz34]

Ya, I knew they where black. Our cars are easy to recharge which is nice not having to dig for caps.