Ok Thanks. I would really appreciate that. Maybe you could PM me when you find out.Originally Posted by Vegeta

Ok Thanks. I would really appreciate that. Maybe you could PM me when you find out.Originally Posted by Vegeta
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Originally Posted by Mach 5
what is so great about second gear start? is it bad for ur tranny? why dont they use it anymore?
Mainly its good for icy/poor road conditions to get better traction. It *possibly* could be bad if you are starting out in 2nd gear all the time, but the occasional start isn't bad.Originally Posted by Prospeeder
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Just some FYI if you have a hard time finding that thread again, it's the "3.4 5 speed video" thread, and the shiftpoint discussion gets started on page 2.Originally Posted by Vegeta
Just to help you search![]()
1999 Dodge Neon R/T: Is MINE now.........WTF?? Maybe I DO have a working car for autoxing after all!<br /><br />1997 Honda Prelude SH: Still going tap-tap, and still being abused......8000rpm is good for it, I SWEAR.<br /><br />1993 Nissan Sentra SE-R: The parts and organ donor has appeared but has yet to be used.<br /><br />1992 Nissan NX2000: Rusting quietly while I try to figure out if a Bluebird long-block is really worth it.<br /><br />1991 Pontiac Grand Prix: Currently in 4th gear due to a shift-cable malfunction, but I'm so lazy it may NEVER get resurected AGAIN.
Thanks, that will make it real easy to go ahead and bookmark.
2nd gear start grew up wanting to be the performance shift button:P
Ben
WOT-Tech
I think they also dropped it because of the 'lack of power' complaints.......people just don't know enough about their own cars.
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What exactly does the performance shift do?
Tony.V
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Tony you have a 5-speed...![]()
It raies the shift points and I think makes them shift faster and harder. At leastthat is what it does in the GTPs
Only raises the shift points with an aftermarket pcm. Stock it doesn't change the shift points. What it does is shift down with less throttle when in p.s. mode. So more responsive.Originally Posted by Aaron
2008 Pontiac G8 GT - Roto-fab Intake, Superchips Cortex tune, Solo Axle-back Exhaust
sl3196 is right (as he owns one)......it does NOT change WOT shifts....only downshifts sooner.....which is about as worthwhile as the tits on BIGBULS.
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Originally Posted by Canada
Pretty much. Doesn't do much with a stock pcm.
2008 Pontiac G8 GT - Roto-fab Intake, Superchips Cortex tune, Solo Axle-back Exhaust
Um, the button can be used for many things. Downshift is useful for response. Try going 1/4 throttle in overdrive and it doesn't kick out. I should be able to make it downshift for better power at part throttle, change WOT shift points, and if the computer allows it, 3-1 and 4-2 downshifts. I could make it stupid shift button as well and keep it in 3rd all the time almost:P
On the 91-93, I changed the spark retard for shift time and that seems to have helped the shift time. Messing with the vacuum modulator will definetly have an impact on how fast it shifts though.
Ben
WOT-Tech
Hahaha, I WAS RIGHT:
But I did compare it to the L67s, but I wasn't referring to them, just saying liek what they do, as I thought they did.Originally Posted by SappySE107
Sweet, but autos still suck![]()
http://www.w-body.com/forum/viewtopi...hlight=bigbuls
That's the actual link to the thread that BIGBULS was talking about.
It IS the "3.4 5 speed video" thread, but I actually had a FAR easier time searching for it by searching in the "General" section and typing "BIGBULS"(I probably should have just asked him, but he was at work).
And as he said....page 2 is where shiftpoint discussion starts........
Just remember.......very few dyno runs exist of close to stock 3.4 DOHC's (hell...very few total...modded OR stock), so it would probably actually be better to do the shiftpoint stuff by dynoing the test car itself and going from there.
This way, you can tailor the shifting to take advantage of the extra top end that I understand your chip adds.
Either way though..........the shiftpoint thread does make some good points.
Just remember to check what rpm the tach drops to OFF of the shift..........the 4T60-E gives the torque convertor a LOT of leway to slip and allow artificially high rpm (I seem to recall it slips something like 800rpm off of the 1-2 shift for the LQ1's).
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I can monitor the total slippage with this program though its a seperate file than what I use for fuel tuning. If I can find a dyno nearby, i will be going that route. I have my doubts about making a lot more power on this chip cause its already rated 10 hp more than the 91-93 auto. It sems to have more power than the 91-93 do anyway. Wait and see I guess.
Ben
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