95 Gp no keys.

[Turbocharged400sbc]

OK the Theft deturent module is behind the right side of the instrument panel it has a 16 terminal conector (or two 8 pin) but has only 8 wires are going into it
3 pink (the two on the B connector go to the key resister on a car W/SEO on a car without SEO those two wires will be ppl/white and white/blk) the other is a power (bulb test, run, start A connector/terminal) and an orange is the constant hot
grey controls the security light in the cluster/dash
black is module ground

yellow with a black tracer controls the starter interupt relay on the right side of the Int panel (near the module) (two yellow wires-one from the ign switch), the yellow with black tracer and a purpl wire (to starter solenoid)
to bypass this relay jumper the yellow wire at A2 (terminal) to the purple wire at C1

the drk Blue wire leaving the module is the bastard you want this is the wire that feeds the 30/50hz ground pulsed signal to the ECM enabling fuel inj pulse!
now this wire goes to different pins of the ECM dep on eng VIN code
VIN L = B19  M=C 23   X=A14   but this is irelevant as you can just connect to this wire at the module...

Now fer the DIY bit to make the VATS/Passkey signal generator...
http://fp.enter.net/~rockcrawl/passkey.html

THis is the exact same site i used for the generator and they have it down pat!
only i out a potentiometer where the R2 resister is (so I can hotwire both types of VATS vehicles with the module) hhmmm still need to find a 95-97 Regal for our front engine.....

Radioshack had everything there in stock!
so go fer it!
Hope this helps ya!

Regards, James

[DiscoStudd]

That's an interesting "discovery" you found there, TC400SBC!!!  Would you mind if I added your tutorial to my write-up?  I've had people ask me how to defeat the system when the "resistor trick" doesn't work, and this would be the answer they're looking for instead of taking the car to the dealer!

[Turbocharged400sbc]

No problem.... but the diagram info is for a 95 SE w and w/o SEO....
the info worked great to fire up the rear engine on the 442...fired right up the first time (set the potentiometer to the specs for 30hz (have a disconect so it's easy to ohm) ran perfect since...and also if you get that small breadboard found at radioshack you can sodder the OEM plug (desolder it off the orig board) directly to the breadboard so you can use the OEM pigtail/wires...

sux tha Mitchell wont let me cut and paste otherwise it'd be SOooo easy to give ya all the diagrams...all in one place...
as it is i would have to print out each diagram and scan it in then post it even though the printer is also a scanner also it's really anoying....

why replace a Prom when it's less than 20$ at radioshack and a little soldering....it's also basically the same design as the ones you can buy on ebay...they charge ya 20-30$ anyway....

i found that site by Googling VATS PassKey I   and  II
more than a couple versions of this circuit out there...
this is the one i found that worked best for Al and I (Al not being PC/electonics compatible-he's colorblind)

[Turbocharged400sbc]

Hmm you have a 95 Regal 3800? got full coverage insurance?
might disapear one morning  

[DiscoStudd]

Hmm you have a 95 Regal 3800? got full coverage insurance?
might disapear one morning  

Are you looking for the engine only, or do you want the whole powertrain?  I'm planning on swapping in an L67 powertrain (can't say exactly when though) and will have no use for my old L27/4T60-E combo afterward.  It's just a thought right now, as I've gotta sort some other stuff out before I go headfirst into the swap -  like convincing the wife that we have nothing better to do with $3k than dumping it into my almost 11 year old car   .  Looks like I need to find a second job pretty soon   ...

[Turbocharged400sbc]

from the subframe to the struts... everything...
kidnap the harness and ECM too :shock:
need a 3800 Wbody setup so we can just bolt it into the front of the 94 Cutlass (442) Al like's his 6.9L car but i think 7.6L is cooler

[Turbocharged400sbc]

So you havent added it yet? just checked...
hopefully it will help out those who wish to bypass the VATS entirely....

[DiscoStudd]

So you havent added it yet? just checked...
hopefully it will help out those who wish to bypass the VATS entirely....

Naah, knowing me it'll be at least another week before I get it together   .

How would you like to be credited, and is it cool if I just copy and paste what you wrote in your "how-to" post above?

[Turbocharged400sbc]

just cut and paste...let me know and someday i could prob scan/Fax all the relevant diagrams too ya for a library of VATS diagrams....

oh and credit...just say Turbocharged400sbc (James) that guy who put two engine's into a 94 Olds cutlass 442 wrote this....  

[DiscoStudd]

How about I include a link to your Cardomain site and your e-mail address so I can send any questions your way   ...

[Turbocharged400sbc]

Sure....hopefully they know the basics of soldering, electrical theory...

and arent colorblind...