View Full Version : Dodge Ram vs. Chevy S-10
rudefyet
06-08-2004, 04:45 PM
I was with my friend Joe in his truck a couple nights ago...along with 2 other people all crammed in
ok heres how it went
us:
9? Dodge Ram 2500 Extended Cab Long Bed 4WD w/ a bed cap...not sure what engine...with 4 people in it
them:
Newer S-10 ridin on dubs (20's), blastin his system some guy and his gf
well...the guy was driving like his truck was the shit...so we...in a completely stock Ram 2500...factory speakers blasting lined up with him
took off and beat him by about 2 or 3 car lengths...heh...it was funny just cause how BIG this Dodge is....that and I hate riced out S-10s
conley3.1
06-08-2004, 06:14 PM
Probably a 5.9 V8. That S10 probably had a 2.2... Weak ass engine. If it was the 4.3 it might've own3d joo.
rudefyet
06-08-2004, 06:28 PM
yeah i figure a 4.3 should've owned us...so it had to be a I4
BIGBULS
06-08-2004, 08:33 PM
Even the 4.3's aren't all that.............I have heard of the occisonal high 15 second 1/4 istock form with a 5 speed (so says my friend with an S10........he peruses the S10 forums, not me), but the couple of 4.3's I've raced didn't offer that much of a problem. They have noce low end and a solid midrange, but nothing up top.
Most of the S10's around here (Extremes included) are 2.2's though.........SO slow.
93CutlassSupreme
06-08-2004, 10:05 PM
not sure how the numbers match up, but i drove a 4 cyl S-10, and then a 3 liter Ranger, and to be honest, couldn't tell a difference.
rudefyet
06-08-2004, 10:13 PM
my 4 cylinder ranger would own my dads 3 liter ranger :lol:
the 3.0's are pitful
actually come to think of it...i raced a 80's 4 cylinder S-10 w/ a cowl hood the other night in my Ranger...and i won :D
BIGBULS
06-08-2004, 10:25 PM
My experience is the exact opposite.
I've driven a couple of 2.3L 5 speed Rangers pretty extensively (an 88 and a 95), and riden in and driven (briefly) a 3.0L V6 auto (94). I thought the 4 cylinders were utterly worthless (the 88 would only go 84mph......TOP speed), where the 3.0 had adequete punch (not fast, but adequete).
Maybe you guys went from a 4 cylinder 5 speed 2WD to a 3.0L V6 auto 4WD?
And the only 2.2L S10 I've dealt with was a 2000 auto and it had trouble hitting it's 93mph governor.
93CutlassSupreme
06-08-2004, 10:25 PM
we had two 3 liter aerostars and they were gutlass, our old '89 4.3 astro would smoke them
i wonder how a 4cyl s-10 and ranger compare
93CutlassSupreme
06-08-2004, 10:30 PM
the 4 cyl s-10 and 3 liter ranger i drove were both 2wd autos
rudefyet
06-08-2004, 10:33 PM
My experience is the exact opposite.
I've driven a couple of 2.3L 5 speed Rangers pretty extensively (an 88 and a 95), and riden in and driven (briefly) a 3.0L V6 auto (94). I thought the 4 cylinders were utterly worthless (the 88 would only go 84mph......TOP speed), where the 3.0 had adequete punch (not fast, but adequete).
Maybe you guys went from a 4 cylinder 5 speed 2WD to a 3.0L V6 auto 4WD?
And the only 2.2L S10 I've dealt with was a 2000 auto and it had trouble hitting it's 93mph governor.
you hit the nail on the head....yep...my Ranger is a 2.3L 2WD 5-spd...and my dads is a 3.0L 4WD Auto
but...my Ranger is really lightweight...base of the base model...that and it has no power steering...and no a/c to bog the engine down....we took it to a track a couple years ago when i had my Honda and ran a 17.9 just messing around
my dads 3.0 does pull but only above 3k...it has no low-end power in my experience
that being said...i can't wait to turbo my ranger someday....heh
oh and BTW...my ranger can pull 85 easily...i've had it past that numerous times :wink:
the ranger is the only car i've owned with and accurate speedo
EDIT: I know that 2.3L Rangers are slow...actually i destroyed a few in my honda...but for some reason this ranger will almost keep up with my GP...not sure why...maybe someone can explain
rudefyet
06-08-2004, 11:17 PM
since i'm afraid i was gonna get flamed here...i looked a lot of stuff up
my ranger weighs around 2800lbs
using a 1/4 time estimator...it would take approx 100 flywheel hp to run a 17.9 at that weight (the calc also adds in driver weight)
so i am actually impresed with my truck in that sense....it's definitely drag limited at high speed...maybe hitting 100 tops...with a Turbo 2.3 (190hp) that truck would pull low 15s/high 14's
as for the S-10 vs. Ranger
i'd choose the S-10...but here's a comparison...using the 90 model year
90 Ranger 2WD 5-spd reg. cab shortbed
2802lbs 100hp 133tq - 1/4 mile = 18.5
90 Chevy S-10 2WD 5-Spd reg. cab shortbed
3118lbs 94hp 130tq - 1/4 mile = 19.6
lmao ford wins that battle
how bout a 96 to be more even
96 Ranger
2960lbs 112hp 135tq - 1/4 mile = 18.3
96 S-10
2822lbs 118 130tq - 1/4 mile = 18.0
pretty even match eh?
remeber though...that calculator i used for the 1/4 mile times has a margin of error of about 3 tenths both ways :wink:
THe_DeTAiL3R
06-08-2004, 11:34 PM
I raced a Chev Astro van at the track a couple times last year and it kept real close with my GP. I only beat it cause I could pull off the line better and pull past the 1/8th mile better (aerodynamics :wink: )
Anyways the Astro ran very low 18s- 18 flat. And they have the 4.3 as far as I know. So in an S-10 it should destroy a Ranger or a 3.1 w-body.
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