Mach 5's new build dd TGP!!

[Mach 5]

ok so this is the new daily driver picked up from stockgp --1990 TGP!! Im actually still in Ohio right now leaving soon so Im gonna get started tonight when I get home and all day tomorrow. it was definitely an adventure 1000miles round trip and meeting several people on here for the first time.

-Jarek

[Jonpro03]

WEWT!

[GOT2B GM]

beauty!

[stockgp]

It was a pleasure meeting you, Jarek, and your friends. Will and dave was it? Sime real nice guys.

I found a couple more parts that you'll need. The vacuum harness and intermediate shaft bracket. Ill have them in the mail for you tomorrow

[Mach 5]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cq1IR1HpSOQ&list=UUlt3fhA--Fal0jdxnZx1rUQ&index=1&feature=plcp (http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DCq1IR1HpSOQ%26list%3DUUlt3fhA--Fal0jdxnZx1rUQ%26index%3D1%26feature%3Dplcp&h=oAQGmus9wAQEWRJHXwLSUSpZ7_jiGOVoC2FUTx01McaRFyw)

omg sweet!! Thanx Dan! btw car now runs and I figured out the clunk..inner tie rods and those strut bearings were siezed, the hard cold start was due to a clogged fuel filter resulting in low pressure..

so today- doing the inner tie rod ends, bled the cooling system, diagnosed the horrible cold start- low fuel pressure- and now Ive got to swap control arms with my poly ones and replace the strut bearings.. oh boy what did I get meself into..lol!!

-Jarek

[stockgp]

damn that's pretty hilarious. i also have a brand new fuel filter in my toolbox. can't believe i forgot to replace that.

also don't know how we missed the vacuum harness. it was right in front of us sitting ont he very top of my toolbox.

glad to see you're hard at it giving her new life.

[Mach 5]

believe me I cant sleep until this thing is done Im very glad to be the owner of this and I havent even driven it yet... I think I found a new name for her.. Racer X since my white tgp is the Mach 5 it pretty much suits the title.

You must have been having some fun with that intake.. I had to helicoli all 4 of the center intake mani bolts that was fun! lol

pics coming soon! been very busy spending every minute till 1am getting the car done. putting the plates on it on thursday

-Jarek

[AL]

Thats awesome how quick you gave this car new life!! I cant wait for pictures

[jeremy]

glad to see another one get saved!!

[Mach 5]

figured I would post some more pics up

what I got left:

tires
brake lines
bumper, fender, and hood
paint
brake light switch
shifter
tach and boost guages
turbo rebuild
radio
torque dampers- dogbones
soon to be tuned by Adam
some other stuff I cant think of..



whats done:

intake gasket
heli coiled lower intake manifold bolts- center 4 bolt holes
replaced fuel filter
upgraded to walbro 255 fuel pump
front poly control arms
inner tierods
new shocks
new o2 sensor
new brake calipers
flushed motor fluids
new autolite 103's
taylor wires
new battery



what was done already:
282 5 speed conversion
upgraded rear brakes
vacuum brake setup
new outer tie rods
new seats
new subframe bushings
some other stuff dont remember everything


getting there..
more to come
-Jarek

[intern8tion9l]

i gotta come check this beast out next week

[Mach 5]

Whats a good tool for flaring brake lines?? I got one from OEM autozone at all the flares are coming out soo shitty.. Im gonna see if I could get the hydralic one from work Ive never had this problem before.

[BXX]

Whats a good tool for flaring brake lines?? I got one from OEM autozone at all the flares are coming out soo shitty.. Im gonna see if I could get the hydralic one from work Ive never had this problem before.


Thats the tool I use on a professional basis, and my flares always look perfect. You sure your cutting the tube square enough and chamfering it and it's sticking out of the vise bar the right amount?

[Mach 5]

Ive tried everything. Ive done plenty of lines before but never used one of these cheap ass tools. I think Dan was using the same one and had the same problem Im having. Its cut squarely and chambered and clean, also set to the right height.. idk Il figure it out. I may just swap lines from my white one for the mean time and I can make new ones for the white tgp..

[Garrett Powered]

I likes me a thread like this... congrats.

[stockgp]

I was definitely using the same tool and not having any success. I've wanted to try another tool, because I even ended up bending a couple of the dies while trying to make decent flares

[Mach 5]

Dan I bent a tie already I have a feeling its the tool being made shitty not the operator. A real tool isnt the $20 autozone special

[White93z34]

I use the crappy OEM brand flare tool with lots of success. it took me awhile to get it right but I can make it turn out perfect flares almost every time. you have to crank the die wing nuts down REALLY right and it usually works pretty good from there.

[stockgp]

I've tried everything to get them right. I will mount the line holder to a table and crank the wing nuts until they wont tighten any more. Still can't get a decent flare.

I.was even going to switch. The whole tgp to the ni/ co alloy lines hoping theyd be easier to.flare

[Mach 5]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WER_46lJrYU&list=UUlt3fhA--Fal0jdxnZx1rUQ&index=1&feature=plcp

first drive
-Jarek

[stockgp]

sounds pretty good. still looks like poo. you bought red paint, where are the red panels?

[Mach 5]

Im painting them now for what it looks like for now at least I can deal with a 10 or even a 20ft paint job on the front.. It will get re sprayed eventually I was soo excited to drive it though I didnt care that it wasnt back together yet.

[Mach 5]

so after about 8hrs of huffing paint fumes I think Im satisfied with my spray can paint job.. It aint the greatest but I have determined it will get the job done for meow till the car gets resprayed. I cant wait till tomorrow when I can actually get this mounted up!

since the left side fender didnt have any clips for the flare I was walking through Lowes and came across these lovely shelf mounts.. I cut the one side off.. Kinda cool as even the holes lined up on the fender I just drilled them out slightly since the hole was a lil beat up then used the appropriate rivet... Blamo the flare goes right on to how I think its suppose to fit.. I really dont know since this car was all apart and Ive never worked on a real TGP before.. but it seems right

Dan- do you have the other fog light I can buy off ya?? unless its floating somewhere in the car I have yet to find it

-Jarek

[Garrett Powered]

I like how the charge wire is routed the stock way but it 2 gauge.

is that 2 gauge? or thicker?

[stockgp]

if the fog light isn't there, i have no idea where it is. i'll take a look at my parents' house

[intern8tion9l]

lol, i can't believe you drove this on main roads with no front end, no lights of any kind, and no plates. can't wait to see it further assembled

[Mach 5]

Jon this is me we're talking aboot.. Cmon I drove the AE86 tin can with just a shell 2 seats 4 wheels no doors hood hatch or bumpers and a steering wheel that was loose just tight enough to catch the spline.. best part my mother was with me and giggling! Oh and btw when yer in town and Im not still sick like I am now we are def going for drinks Im thinking Jon Harvards

Dan dont worry about it I appreciate everything

Garrett Powered Its the stock 8 guage just with some cool tubing that I believe Dan put on before I got it.. I liked it so I left it

More pics coming soon way too cold out to work on it Im not getting frost bitten at 20 degrees without wind chill

new hood cable is in, tires and alignment tomorrow. The stock exhaust is already pissing me off so the first nice warm day I get thats coming off. The engine noise only time will tell.. sounds like piston slap but its even there when warm only a lil quieter see if it gets any worse. I may just build the other motor for this idk yet

-Jarek

[Mach 5]

ok so I Seafoamed the motor the other day cleared up the upper valvetrain noise/ piston slap I had with this motor.. Now I found something worse a much quieter noise yet very very annoying.. a bearing noise.. so todays project was pull the pan down and check the bearings.. I over-nighted at 7pm friday rod bearings from Ohio came at 9am this saturday morning. found cylinder #'s 4 & 5 rod bearings were worn out and about to spin. So then I decided to figure out why. found the thrust bearing that supplys the oil to those 2 cylinders worn out as well with .0040inch of clearance.. max allowed was .0027" so yay me!! now I got to find main bearings and try to figure out how Im gonna replace them without pulling the motor out to remove the crank.. gonna be fun!! Im hoping Autozone does Sunday HUB transferrs or else Im gonna drive the 80mile 4hr trek to Brooklyn to pick up the mains..

I uploaded some pics.. got more coming. these are just of the pan removal and the notch I made in the trans bellhousing in order to squeeze the pan out without removing the cradle. The next batch possibly later on tonight will be of the bearings


*reasoning as to why the bearings failed?? I really dont know but as to what I thought was that the coolant sitting in the oil pan eroded the bearing surface.. Now after inspection I believe it was from dirty oil particles that embedded into the main bearing which then wore it out.
A good website showing bearing analysis: http://www.agkits.com/bearing-failure-analysis.aspx

-Jarek

[stockgp]

Damn im sorry, Jarek. I had always planned on running that motor until I got the second motor built. Honestly if id known the rid bearings were failing, id have never sold the car that way

[AL]

Damn dude, I cant believe how quick and how much you are working at getting this thing 100%... Do you ever sleep??

[Mach 5]

Dan Im not complaining.. like I said I actually yet surprisingly enjoy working on these damn things I dont know why.. anyhow here are some pics of the bearings...

- I tacked the oil pickup tube didnt want that falling off and you can clearly see the wear on cyl 4 & 5 and on the mains. the mains are very rough and have material embedded in the surface. I found tons of hard sealer in the pan which was used on the turbo oil drain back tube to pan rather than the o-ring that was suppose to be used

-Jarek

[tornado_735]

onow I got to find main bearings and try to figure out how Im gonna replace them without pulling the motor out to remove the crank..

Can't you change the mains with the crank in situ?

I have a friend that changed mains on an engine like that. He just used a thin piece of aluminum to poke the top bearing cap out, then used it to feed the new cap in. I'll see if I can find the video.

[tornado_735]

Shit, looks like I was mistaken. It was the rod bearings he replaced, not the mains. Sorry! I wonder if it's the same principle though...

*edit*

I got ahead of myself. He did change the mains.

I know it's apples vs. oranges engine wise, but here's the vid if it's of any help.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6d3xyh8yrGw

[Mach 5]

Can't you change the mains with the crank in situ?

I have a friend that changed mains on an engine like that. He just used a thin piece of aluminum to poke the top bearing cap out, then used it to feed the new cap in. I'll see if I can find the video.

^yes thats exactly what Im doing. I know it can be done only issue Im having is that I really dont have alot of room to work under the car. Im a pretty big guy and Ive got 1 jackstand holding the suspension up on the one side and a hoist holding the engine up which is sort of in my way when Im working on the motor. A video would be cool though just so everyone can see exactly whats going on

The procedure for the mains is that you have to remove each bearing one at a time or at most the 2 inners then the 2 outers so you dont have weight on the seals and the PTO (Power Take Off) and timing gear.

Al- lmfao yeah I dont sleep that much when I have projects.. Its on my mind so I work till I pretty much pass out. Ive woken up under a car at 6am funny you said that

-Jarek

[tornado_735]

^yes thats exactly what Im doing. I know it can be done only issue Im having is that I really dont have alot of room to work under the car. Im a pretty big guy and Ive got 1 jackstand holding the suspension up on the one side and a hoist holding the engine up which is sort of in my way when Im working on the motor. A video would be cool though just so everyone can see exactly whats going on

Al- lmfao yeah I dont sleep that much when I have projects.. Its on my mind so I work till I pretty much pass out. Ive woken up under a car at 6am funny you said that

-Jarek

I added the video to my post above. I also know exactly what you're talking about being a big dude, I'm pretty husky myself. Long arms don't help either :lol:

[Mach 5]

^ nice video btw!!

yeah Im 6ft2 245lbs haha I swear you just gotta love/hate these cars though I know they make me crazy sometimes


-Jarek

[tornado_735]

^ nice video btw!!

yeah Im 6ft2 245lbs haha I swear you just gotta love/hate these cars though I know they make me crazy sometimes


-Jarek

:lol: Like I said, I know it's apples/oranges engine wise, but I figured the principle was the same! My friend Frank is a master shadetree mechanic over there in the UK.

I'm 6'3 and up over 300lbs. So I know your pain, and then some!

It's funny, my girlfriend asked me tonight if it was possible to turbocharge our Euro. I told her yeah, but there just isn't any room under the hood with the LQ1 shoehorned in there. I explained how much work would go into boosting a car, and an LQ1 especially. She seemed disappointed lol

I've been watching the thread, and I'm interested in seeing where it goes next. Keep up the good work! :thumbsup:

[Mach 5]

Thank you!

ok well I gots more pics from a few days ago. The detailer at work insisted he do his part on the car. You can see the difference in the paint granted its far from perfect but a 10footer for now will do just fine. I cant believe at how well she shined up!

-Jarek

[BXX]

Needs moar LX9 now.

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[Mach 5]

nahh.. lol! You and those gdamn LX9s. You know I fix those things everyday and I dont want one in my car haha granted its never really an internal issue but I would like to keep the charactistic of this car with this car not with some other powerplant

-Jarek

[White93z34]

With ya 100% on the original engine thing, Jarek. You make the progress I've made on my TGP look tame as hell compared to yours. I'm also amazed how nice its cleaned up since you got it. Making me want to get mine painted this winter!

[GOT2B GM]

Damn man, you are definitely dedicated.

Makes me want to pull down the TGP motor and inspect the mains and rod bearings....

[Mach 5]

just finished!! I will be driving the car to work tomorrow engine is much quieter meow very happy. On another note I hate assholes. Just got gas and this guy asked me if the car was turbo I said yes and it was factory he just laughed. Reminds me of idiots that have asked if my AE86 corolla was an MR2, 300zx, Mustang, Supra, Celica. Uggggg -Jarek

[stockgp]

out of curiosity, why not paint the hood sinceyou did the fender and bumper?

[Mach 5]

I like the look of a black hood on a red car. Makes me feel like its a racecar... lol Actually the real reason is that I save money by not painting it for the time being and I actually do like how it looks

-Jarek

[Garrett Powered]

anything to break up that bright red. its just too much sometimes.

[94 olds vert]

I'm a fan of the black hood.

[19Cutlass94]

One of these days Ill have to drive down there and meet up with you and Jon!

[Mach 5]

Jason that would be fucking sweet I wanted to come to Jons 30th but I just got my old job back 4months ago after leaving for almost 2 years and I hate taking days off.

btw engine still has a knock but its quieter I believe from the wrist pin. Its really pissing me off.. Im dropping off the other block I got and thats getting machined gonna get a new turbo and swap my old heads, and cam from the white car and call it good. I may or may not end up getting a set of the JE pistons I had in the other motor made up I really dont know yet. UGGG this is really bothering me I almost dont want to drive the car but I have no choice right meow

-Jarek

[Mach 5]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dQ7obhNbhI&feature=youtu.be (http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D3dQ7obhNbhI%26feature%3Dyoutu.be&h=wAQH0TuujAQFX87eNMeOjx_jqpu0VLorlcF7IABM5g4Mt7g)

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[Mach 5]

new motor build for the Racer X TGP starts tomorrow!!

any idea of either where I can buy a rebuild kit for the stock T25 turbo or a slightly upgraded turbo like a T28 or upgraded parts for the T25 to flow more??

engine will get:
port and polish heads
either stock or JE pistons??
Engle Cam .488 lift
roller tipped rockers
3inch downpipe and exhaust
cometic head gasket

Many of the parts I have already just need to get the block machined

-Jarek

[19Cutlass94]

Unless your going to change the compression ratio, Id just leave the stock pistons in there. Depends on how much you wanna boost too..


Hopefully I can make it down in April with the car, but it depends on how the motor build goes.. Planning on rebuilding it.

[Mach 5]

Jason maybe I missed something thought you rebuilt it?? Well knowing me I cant drive slow so JE's it is. As a matter of fact I may just end up getting my old pistons back.. haha!! The last thing I need is an issue. Still undecided on a turbo though. It seems most of these turbos that are out now are ball bearing. I want something cheap and that will directly bolt in without having to change the oil and return lines. Are there any mods that can be done to the T25??

-Jarek

[Garrett Powered]

2871r is the way to go. love mine now that I finally started using it.

[19Cutlass94]

I didnt rebuild it yet. Just have been planning the build and what parts Im going to use.

[intern8tion9l]

I didnt rebuild it yet. Just have been planning the build and what parts Im going to use.

plus 5spd swap! would be nice for you to get your ass down here

[Mach 5]

2871r it is!! yeah Jason would be nice to meet ya!

[95cutlass]

wow never looked at this thread, im glad I finally did. Very nice looking car. Its always nice to see someone restoring their w-body.

[Mach 5]

Thanks! yeah stay tuned Ive got more to come.

Jason Im changing the turbo, higher boost, cam and bore size so its getting JE's already been ordered. compression will be 9.0:1. block is being bored 20 over and getting decked for cometics.

[19Cutlass94]

Oh man! Looks like Ill be loosing to two TGP's!!! :lol:

[stockgp]

are you doing all the machine work on the spare motor or on the one already in it?

[Mach 5]

the machine work is getting done on the spare block.. The motor thats in the car now well be rebuilt after this one gets done as a spare probably for the white car since that one is a trial/ error kinda thing so if I throw a rod or break the crank in half I have something to throw in. The white car(Mach 5) I will be pushing to the absolute limits.. looking for 700 at the tire

Just another crappy cell phone video of the Racer X: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYB2JmurMcs&feature=youtu.be (http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DwYB2JmurMcs%26feature%3Dyoutu.be&h=FAQHi7QJKAQGSooVpS9CVTwhwhz6Afy9fWfOtPO5U2W3HgQ)

-Jarek

[stockgp]

that was my plan, too. did you figure out the story with that bumpstick?

[Mach 5]

bumpstick??

[GOT2B GM]

camshaft

[Mach 5]

oh durrr!!!! lol!! Dan I havent even looked at that yet. Its going into scrap. I will see if I can pull a number off it. Im using Engle Cams for this motor. its basically the same motor minus the gt3071r.. Im thinkin 2871 but Im also thinking gtx series.. idk yet

[stockgp]

If you're going to scrap it, what would you want to ship it back to me? I've been wanting a cam to make a shifter for my truck. Lol

[Mach 5]

dude thats a baddass idea!! for you Im gonna have to say $150 bucks.. lol.. just send me yer address and its yours buddy I dont know where I put it.

-Jarek

[Mach 5]

so wtf!!! with the wastegate disconnected completely wide open I still manage to overboost past 15psi @ 4k rpm and beyond on the stock T-25!! I cant believe the flow of this new 3inch downpipe makes even stock turbo's quirky as fuck! Who thought this would be an issue even on the stock turbo??

ohh and the car broke down on me yesterday.. just stalled and would barely idle any throttle input it would stall. no check engine light too!! gotta love OBD 1. This happened at 1am right before it stared snowing.. YAY!! well anyways I had my laptop with me which was good and it turned out I was getting any reading from the MAP sensor.. found the vacuum line under the plenum had melted and inclosed on itself.. so an hour later I was back and running a few friends came to the rescue too which was good just in case I needed a tow or anything else

well here is the 3inch exhaust on the Racer X swapped from the Mach 5

[stockgp]

damn that's a beefy exhaust. and that vacuum harness was brand new. how the hell did you manage to melt it already? lol

[Mach 5]

I didnt use that harness.. but if I did Im sure that would have melted too. I guess the manifolds get hot and the plastic got soft and inclosed itself. who knows..

[Mach 5]

new exhaust video..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7XlREh2sfA&feature=youtu.be

[Garrett Powered]

sounded good!

[Garrett Powered]

"so wtf!!! with the wastegate disconnected completely wide open I still manage to overboost past 15psi @ 4k rpm and beyond on the stock T-25!! I cant believe the flow of this new 3inch downpipe makes even stock turbo's quirky as fuck! Who thought this would be an issue even on the stock turbo??"
I believe the map got tricked by the leak somewhere, could have been from the old vac lines all leaking at the elbows or theegr tube leaking a hot gas blade torching the line under the plenum, I have seen that happen a lot, or the extra heat from the turbo exhaust side created by the overboost condition. spinning that wheel too hard will kill the turbo in a jiffy and the extra heat will create those exact conditions.


ohh and the car broke down on me yesterday.. just stalled and would barely idle any throttle input it would stall. no check engine light too!! gotta love OBD 1. This happened at 1am right before it stared snowing.. YAY!! well anyways I had my laptop with me which was good and it turned out I was getting any reading from the MAP sensor.. found the vacuum line under the plenum had melted and inclosed on itself.. so an hour later I was back and running a few friends came to the rescue too which was good just in case I needed a tow or anything else"

yep the map sensor makes the over boost shit happen on tgp's because they cant tell the engine load. clean map signal is necessary for the chip to fuel it right. I used to not have tunerpro or a scanner and always have that happen to me. that is why obd1 is awesome if you have the gear, but sucks when you don't. its kind of bad ass when it is all set up and you are tuning though. I am sure you will get everything ironed out with it if you keep datalogging.

[Mach 5]

Thank you^

Im going to port the wastegate and see if it changes. I will look into it though. Kinda wierd that it didnt do it before with the stock downpipe but then again it did the same with the gt3071r I used to have until I ported the wastegate.. Who knows.. gotta love it lol!

[Mach 5]

ok so a very small update.. did the fix for the checks gauges light and low fuel light coming on in the cluster, added a tach , boost and wideband gauges- still need to get the power wire for the wideband, fabbed up a center console bracket and got that in finally, also hooked up my spare lower valence and gave it some JDM loven.. STITCHES!!!! lol! Ohh and finally installed the flares in the front

-Jarek

[intern8tion9l]

get that "intercooled turbo" lit up?

[Mach 5]

Yeah Jon I had to sand it.. I guess your was done already. Its lit up in one of the pictures

[intern8tion9l]

durrr, guess i'm blind

[Garrett Powered]

I saw a guy on here repair one of those valences with 1/4" welded steel mesh screen bent to the shape of the inside of the valence and coated with bondo-glass.

I had to try it and it worked good. I repaired a valence I had with some seriously bad road rash. ended up having a perfect one for backup because I didn't have to trash that one.

I like how that adds character to your ride though. good for at least a temporary fix. :thumbsup:

[Mach 5]

Thanks!! Yeah a few guys caught on to it at work noting my stitches lol had a few laughs.. I didnt want to use my good one since that one will be used to make the molds for group buy
That sounds like a good idea though. I have one more that is really bad that maybe I can use that way to temp fix it. bad is an understatement its in like 6 pieces lol

[Mach 5]

Jon you better be putting them planes on autopilot if yer blind..lol I can tell you are since you drove right over that curb the last time I saw you.. That sidewalk didnt even know what the heck was coming...

[intern8tion9l]

i don't know how to fly without autopilot

[Mach 5]

gtfo

[stockgp]

i can not say i approve of the extra gauge mounting:mad:. gauge pod in the future?

[Mach 5]

I like the guage mounting. I have a pod in my other car and I wanted this to go unnoticed. everything is very visible and where I want it.

-new engine very soon! I just rebuilt the turbo and just waiting on my funds so I can pay for the motor and everything I need. The clutch doesnt hold worth a damn right meow..

[19Cutlass94]

What clutch are you running?

[Mach 5]

whatever was installed when I got the car so I really dont know. I figured the motor is coming out in a few weeks so it didnt matter but its getting bad its just got to last me till I get everything but at the rate its going Im not going to make it that far.

[intern8tion9l]

how did that turbo rebuild go?

[Mach 5]

like a boss!! I have yet to install it though

[trewyn15]

Amazing build so far man!

This thread has convinced me to find that body style for my winter beater and fix it up, I will definitely be keeping an eye on this!

[Addicted To Boost]

This idea of winter beating TGPs is full of FAIL.

[trewyn15]

This idea of winter beating TGPs is full of FAIL.

I didn't say a TGP, I said that body style, so any model of that generation grand prix :thumbsup:

[Mach 5]

3/20/2012 so Im back updating the progress of the build..

got new motor going to together in the next week

3.1 LG5 stock t-25
Engle Cam
JE- Pistons
ported head, Intake
balanced rotating assembly
ported exhaust manifolds and turbo housing
Spec Stage III
ARP Bolts, heads, mains. and rods
decked, overbored block
brass freeze out plugs
1.6 roller tipped rockers
60mm throttle body
H- race bearings
36 lb/ hr injectors custom fuel rail setup
3 inch turbo back exhaust to dual 3 inch Dynomax Ultraflo mufflers
cometic head gaskets
MSD ignition
B+M engine oil cooler w/ trans adapt thermostat sandwich

newer non leaky tgp rack w/ poly bushing- I tried to get measurements couldnt remove bushing


oh and yes all my cars including this being my daily driver are broken down.. Yay me lol

[Garrett Powered]

engle cams are very nice. custom turbo grind?

[Mach 5]

I forget which one exactly its the cam out of my white grand prix. I know it held the power all the way to redline with this cam dyno prove not just my butt dyno. I loved it! It was the mild street/ strip cam

[GOT2B GM]

http://www.w-body.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=7778&d=1332308835

Love this pic, you're truly hardcore Jarek!!

[intern8tion9l]

i also love the line of broken down cars, lol. this tgp is going to be pretty badass, more than i would ever probably do

[Addicted To Boost]

What's wrong with the white GP?

[Mach 5]

Thanks everyone! Matt glad you like the pic its always fun to come home after work to see the lineup making me all depressed lol since they are on jack stands.. sigh

white gp- Mach 5- is getting re-done since my motor blew back in Dec 24th 2010 (yes on xmas) when the oil cooler line let go causing oil pressure loss and since it failed when I was getting on the highway with the hammer down I actually wound up bending the crank pretty good to where it couldnt be fixed also dumped all 5 qts on the on-ramp. So because of this Its getting restored since it was my first car and all new custom suspension, either corvette or gxp brakes, and a 700- 900 hp 3.1L destroked turbo motor and 5 speed equiped. This is a 3 year project

AE86- I blew the rear end again shearing the clutch cam in the LSD in chunks. I have a race Formula Atlantic inspired Takumi Fujiwara 4ag 20v motor going in along with a custom 6 speed and I hope to finish the body soon. *will be finished by Dec 31st projected goal

then the Racer X TGP if all goes well will be done this week hopefully so I can get back to the AE86.- hopefully done by the end of this week

[Mach 5]

got some more parts.. Gaskets and everything else I ordered will be here tomorrow hopefully

newer/ used non leaky steering rack installed along with new power steering lines


*fabbed up jig for 3inch downpipes please see thread in group buy section for more details!


-Jarek

[Mach 5]

just an update... I had an issue with my fresh new motor blowing last week due to the flat tappet cam blowing out and throwing nice metal bits everywhere causing damage to the new engine and turbo.. so...

I bought some new goodies...

motor is getting re-checked
3500 Kellogg forged crank is getting fitted
sbc h-beam rods
gt3076r turbo :edit:
JE Pistons
wottech strip ROLLER cam!!!
1.6 rockers
...rest to be updated later

turbo came today!!!

[GOT2B GM]

sounds like it'll be stout!

[stockgp]

i had that car up ion the air like that for too long...lol. bring her back down. i just bought another turbo 3.1 motor and have nothing to put it in.:dance:

[Mach 5]

Dan why would you do that!!?? just to accumulate parts?? I understand I would do the same. lol

[stockgp]

found it on craigslist local, supposedly only had 40,000 on it. honestly, as clean as it is, i believe it. bought it for 100 bucks, so what the hell, right?

[Mach 5]

you crazy dan!! I cant talk though since Im the same way! So what you gonna buy to put this in??

[Mach 5]

more parts!!!

[Mach 5]

custom set of Crane hydralic roller lifters just came!!

[meltboy1]

Well this looks like a thread I am going to have to catch up on and read from start to finish, just looking at this last page has really interested me :) Where is West Islip btw? I assume by NYC?

[Mach 5]

Thanks! Im on Long Island about 50miles east of NYC on the south side of the island by Robert Moses beaches

[Mach 5]

machine shop wrote on my crank.. Hes like we just cut half the weight off your shaft today.. so no more 2.250 journals now the 2.0 lol!

also had to order wrist pin bushings so the rods can be correctly sized for my pin. right now its set for .927 pins I need .906

[intern8tion9l]

haha that's awesome

[Garrett Powered]

custom set of Crane hydralic roller lifters just came!!

kind of wishing those were in my car right now.

[Mach 5]

lil update for today.. made a tool with my machinist to press out the wrist pin bushings and press the new ones in.. So thats what I did after work.. Now tomorrow Im gonna stop in and re-size the bushing to fit the new/ 15miles used (lol) wrist pins.. So glad hes letting me use the equipment

[Mach 5]

just finished this last night with my machine shop owner.. He took some pics

Its the cam retainer plate for the new roller setup we made bosses in the block using 3/8 bolts and drilled the center to mount the plate. Also we had to machine the block flat and the bolt heads flat so the plate sat perfectly on the block. It took us some time to figure out after some clashing of brain power I think this was the ultimate solution

[Mach 5]

so the Racer X finally runs. Ive drive her about 100miles or so. Still more work to come Ive got a 60mm throttle body to install, a new intercooler and piping.. also eventually body work.

[Addicted To Boost]

Why are you running an external crank trigger on a 3.1?

[RobertISaar]

if i had to guess..... i'd say he has the 3500 crank in the 3.1 block.

[Addicted To Boost]

Ahh, that would make sense.

[intern8tion9l]

100 miles is more than last time, i say that's a great start!

[Mach 5]

Yes that is a 3500 crank shaft ground down to fit the motor. And for anyone whom hasn't used Robert Saar's IPC repair service he did great work on mine. Ive never seen the thing work so well. Only issue now is the ECM needs to be tuned and I need the correct file uploaded to correct my speedo reading 20mph lower than it should but hey at least now it corresponds with the HUD speed and isnt reading 120mph when doing 30mph.. also boost guage is fixed so Im very happy.Jon when you gonna be home again???

[stockgp]

i came. srsly. lol

and i love that you used purple. my two fav colors are red and purple.

i can't help but be jealous as hell that someone else is finally having some fun with my baby:( , but i'm glad you're getting her going

[Garrett Powered]

with that motor who cares what color it is? :lol: it might as well be kawasaki green and I would love it!!!!

[Mach 5]

with that motor who cares what color it is? :lol: it might as well be kawasaki green and I would love it!!!!


haha thanx!

update: finally getting around to installing a set of BXX fabs rear control arms. Was going to use these for the Mach 5 but my bushings are shot in the rear and my drivers side is apparently bent which I found out the other day

[intern8tion9l]

beefy

[Mach 5]

so another update.. Ive been having problems with the Spec clutch slipping so I had one made by Falcon clutches which is right down the street from my house. Steve at Pitbull Performance allowed my use of his lift so off I went to pull the trans last night. so far Im happy with the clutch still needs to breakin but I did one pass just to be sure that it holds and it does so now the breakin process will begin. Pedal height is a little low my theory is due to the changed fulcrum point in the pressure plate to increase pressure it changed the release point. Im not 100% sure though.

[19Cutlass94]

Nice man! Hopefully itll work for ya and not slip. Another reason why I didnt go with spec. Too many people have too many issues with them.

[Garrett Powered]

I like my spec stage 2 now that its broke in. I think it would hold more power if I boosted this 3400 too. for now it's perfect for this car.

the stage 3 came out when the trans case shattered.

[Mach 5]

trans shattered!!?? WOW!! thats crazy!?

[Garrett Powered]

http://www.w-body.com/showthread.php/46174-88-is-back-after-throwing-spider-gear

[Mach 5]

thats wild!

[intern8tion9l]

now yours is driveable and mine isn't. the world has turned upside-down

[19Cutlass94]

And mine still hasnt started so all is right with the world :lol:

[Mach 5]

well Jon go order an accumulator and we can knock that out one night I will also bring the Tech 1 home from work.. Jay I think I received a special message from you today.. lol sounds good and looks good!

[Mach 5]

9-18-2012

got the Racer X dynoed. still on a somewhat base tune. about 8k on the motor now. running very fat afr's
the different dynos are from adjusting the fuel pressure still havent tuned yet.
and thankyou Pitbull Performance for my birthday present def a fun day

-Jarek

[intern8tion9l]

nice! i wanna play too!

[BrianG]

Good gawd thats hot!

[Garrett Powered]

looks like I will get kicked off the garage section Top Dyno Pulls list now.
:cry:

[19Cutlass94]

Next time Im on the island I want a ride in this thing! Those are some nice numbers,

[Mach 5]

I like this video!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nMlL_EDm2k&feature=relmfu (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nMlL_EDm2k&feature=relmfu)

Dyno pull
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FoPrCfwxQz4&feature=relmfu

[RobertISaar]

wow.... put a fox-body to shame. :lol:

[Garrett Powered]

what's it like to drive that thing?

[intern8tion9l]

I can tell you what it's like to ride in it......prob exactly what you are thinking

[Garrett Powered]

like turning on and off a light switch? lol if I had to guess.

[Mach 5]

lets just say while it always puts a smile on my face, its still a work in progress. Still so much to do. but its fun and when that trans am ws6 or srt 4 or even that challenger srt 8 with the license plate srtsnake pulls up next to you.. and traction is always an issue. 3rd gear on the highway if its around 50- 55mph and it will spin the tires till I shift then chirp 4th.

I just have to figure out the axle situation and I just blew another getrag 284.. have no 5th or reverse gears.. sigh. and still have to tune and make headers and crossover since I have a feeling air cannot get out of the motor.

[19Cutlass94]

Jarek, wanna buy my old 284? It has no 2nd gear synchro, but if your just using it for parts itll work. Also sounds like you need better tires :lol:

[Mach 5]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wl2SH0SGd6I&feature=youtu.be - I took it to about 145ish. vid doesnt go that high though it gets close

Jay, sounds good to me. I need a trans and I dont use 2nd gear anyway lol! how bad is it and how much? plus shipping? btw Im having that other trans with the bellhousing issue fixed. and Im rockin the Cooper RS4-A allseasons I like them for a daily drive tire

[19Cutlass94]

Well if you shift under 10mph you it wont grind, but anything else its fucking bad :lol: I would always go about 3k rpm in 1st then just go to 3rd. Gearing is great in these trans for that haha

[Mach 5]

yeah umm. no. lol! but I will take it anyway Jay.

and to those that remember the issue at the last Ohio trip in June 2012 this was my fueling issue-got sand and grit what I think is from the Speedway gas station in Ohio I forget where- see pix.
and broken axles are funn too!!

[Night Fury]

Holy christ

[Garrett Powered]

that was climbing fast for 5th

[Mach 5]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KsbQWjNjzNc

video was taken from my film can that was playing on the tv lol!! only has 1st through 4th need to fix trans and cables. turns out my shifter linkage at the trans came loose the actual bracket part. car is off the road now until my new title comes and car is fixed Im hoping by end of March.

[nelson480]

Looks like a fun build. Make it RWD!

[Mach 5]

^^lol idk maybe if I picked up a third gp I would think about rear wheel drive.. or maybe midship.. lol

okay so Im getting the car back on the road thursday just fixed the trans and put a new clutch in along with a new p/s rack and st lowering springs and the birchmount going in tomorrow night.. still plenty to do but good enough to be road worthy.

also had to repair the firewall. Had an issue with the clutch master not lining up from whomever that did the 5 speed swap before I bought the car. the mount hole was 1/4 inch too far to the inside and was causing the pedal to bind and blow the master out. . yummy. so I ground out the hole and made a new mounting plate which I then welded to the firewall.

pix- 4/9/2013

-Engine bay shot
-stance shot before rear leaf install
-Falcon clutch setup
-firewall repair

[Garrett Powered]

that car is the toughest built TGP ever.

[pontiac6ksteawd]

Wow... Missed this thread... Very Nicely Done! Hmm.. I have access to a black hood, and mine needs painting... HMM!

[Mach 5]

^^Thank you!I got another video from last night on the go pro. lil dark on certain computers by fine on my laptop.. My frinds MR2 that we custom built in the garage and the Racer X TGP http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qt5jZ_822AQ&feature=youtu.be-Jarek

[pontiac6ksteawd]

That looked like fun...

[intern8tion9l]

Can't even hear the type s!

[Mach 5]

Houston we have a problem it seems our disconbobulator has snapped.. Um yeah I snapped my 3500 crankshaft at the number 6 rod journal clean off. engine still ran with full oil pressure and no noise just a crazy vibration anything above 2krpm.. no bearing damage surprisingly. I think I can save it. The next crank will be getting heat treated. umm yeah very funn day to save the least. I have a smile on my face haha!!

-Jarek

[Garrett Powered]

why the hell would it do that???

[Mach 5]

not all too sure. very odd. only thing I can thing off is that it had too small of a radius or it couldnt handle the torque, or when it was cut down the outer layer thats hardened is gone so it would need heat treatment. I really dont know Im going to my crank guy tomorrow.

I had 10k of non stop abuse on it running it full bore whenever I had the chance up to 150+mph so Im sure that didnt help but being that its a one off custom engine Im not complaining just something that I will need to research and figure out a solution. quite interesting though

[Garrett Powered]

is those the race bearings with the tang on one side sanded down?

[Mach 5]

yes. there was no bearing failure at all and there wasnt really any metal in the pan

[Mach 5]

I used Federal Mogul 3/4 groove on the mains and Clevite HD race bearings sbc narrow on the rods. Not a scrape just a slight polishing on the last main on the edges from the crank breaking and moving but the rest are fine.

[intern8tion9l]

this poor car

[Garrett Powered]

How much is it going to cost to get another crank, mod it and harden it?

[jman093]

Wasn't there some years or models of the 3500 that had factory forged steel cranks? I remember reading about it on 60V6 when I went there frequently.

[RobertISaar]

IIRC, the G6 and malibu non-VVT 3500s got the forged cranks, but others got cast. all of the VVT motors should be forged..... i think. there's a lot of buried info out there.

[White93z34]

At what point do you concede that the 3.1 in no way shape or form was meant to put down that power? :lol:

[Crazy K]

At what point do you concede that the 3.1 in no way shape or form was meant to put down that power? :lol:
Blasphemy! :bonk:

Hope you get it back together for more awesome power numbers!!!

[Mach 5]

At what point do you concede that the 3.1 in no way shape or form was meant to put down that power? :lol:

NEVER!! haha LG5 all the way!

Well that was the 3500 forged crank haha! Um not really sure yet on how much or time frame yet still working on what I am going to use. I have another crank but if its going to break again I really need to find another way. Im trying my best to get this running again to put some numbers down. I may or may not make headers or new larger manifolds while I have it out it all depends on time and the Ohio trip this June.


tearing the motor down tnite.
Thanks for the replys. I really need to get on here more

-Jarek

[White93z34]

I've said it 100 times you are nuts. I love it. I cannot imagine how much that all costs though.

Whatever you do make it out to Toledo, I'd be awesome to BS with ya there.

[Mach 5]

some pix... made me a set of rear coilovers using the shortened shocks that my friend cut down. ohh and my broken crank.. uhh yeah lol!
engine should be back torgether next week. the new crank will have a much larger radius so this hopefully doesnt happen

[Garrett Powered]

do you get to use those same rods?

[Mach 5]

yes. there was no other damage just a snapped crank. I got real lucky

[intern8tion9l]

The fact that a broken crank is considered lucky for you gives an idea of the scale of your problems. Lol

[Garrett Powered]

w body mvp 2013