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Fraschy
10-11-2011, 09:18 PM
Got her earlier this summer..I am in the process of dealing with some rusts spots. I already repainted the back bumper after completely grinding and sanding away the rust. This is my second car, and the first one I actually love and work on myself. I love to do as much as possible on my own. I also put a cone filter on her for now, a blue Spectra..boy was that a puzzle. I also made the muffler tips shiny again, and same thing on the wheels. I plan to fix the dent after I get the rust issue done with, then she could use a paint touch up in a few spots, especially the front bumper. And of course a nice polish and wax. I also want to get those darn windows tinted! http://i1120.photobucket.com/albums/l483/fraschy/DSCN2442-2.jpg http://i1120.photobucket.com/albums/l483/fraschy/DSCN2434-1.jpg ^ you can see the dent by the drivers side door http://i1120.photobucket.com/albums/l483/fraschy/DSCN2446-1.jpg ^This was the rust before. The part by the gas tank thing had to be clipped off completely, the stuff by the bumper was able to be sanded away. http://i1120.photobucket.com/albums/l483/fraschy/DSCN2492.jpg ^ After picture! Had to debadge the GTP..and I like it better off for now. You can definitely see the new paint vs the old faded paint on the trunk lid. Already polished that part up and it blends nicely now. http://i1120.photobucket.com/albums/l483/fraschy/interior.jpg ^I wish the steering wheel was actually BLACK like it is in the Montes. I also wish I had my original bucket seats that belong in there! The people I bought the car from redid the interior and had these seats put in, since the previous owner smoked making the interior nasty.

Psych0matt
10-11-2011, 09:38 PM
Nice! Like an older brother of mine :D

Addicted to eaton
10-11-2011, 09:47 PM
you mean younger... lol.

Psych0matt
10-11-2011, 09:53 PM
sure, why not :lol:

Night Fury
10-11-2011, 10:03 PM
NICEEEEEEEEEE!!!!

GOT2B GM
10-11-2011, 10:08 PM
coming along nicely

94 olds vert
10-12-2011, 05:42 AM
Nice car. I'm kinda surprised to see those seats in the interior. Any reason for the 93 and down door panel?

runt
10-12-2011, 07:31 AM
A quick trip to the JY could fix those seats.

And I thought those door panels were stock for that year? At least they look similar to the ones that were in my buddies old '96.

GOT2B GM
10-12-2011, 07:35 AM
That's the correct door panel.

93 and prior don't have the cupholder "bulge" in the door pocket.

The seats match the doors as well so those could be original seats unless someone changed everything out.

Dannymik
10-12-2011, 07:44 AM
me likey!!!! I've always liked that body style :thumbsup:

Dannymik
10-12-2011, 07:45 AM
btw, nice air freshener :lol:

Fraschy
10-12-2011, 12:33 PM
btw, nice air freshener :lol:

Hahahaha thanks..and yes, the car is supposed to have bucket seats. I went to the junkyard to find seats..of course the Grand Prix with the light grey bucket seats was pretty smashed up, and the seats were exposed to weather for who knows how long. If I can find a set of seats cheap enough Ill buy them, otherwise I am putting the money towards a newer grand prix.

AWeb80
10-12-2011, 04:09 PM
Gorgeous.....I'm jealous of your sunroof....

Cully77
10-12-2011, 05:14 PM
Welcome! Looks great, glad you're fixing her up

white4d96
10-14-2011, 04:59 AM
I actually kinda like that light grey dash...me want.

Silentkillzr
10-15-2011, 07:20 PM
Sick interior, and outside, I think the 5 spoke ( not torx ) rims would look way better than this those. But other than that, things sweet. Love this body style. Sporty but mean look.

Fraschy
10-16-2011, 01:51 AM
I love those wheels over the 5 spoke ones. I thought about painting them black..not sure how good that would turn out though.

Fraschy
10-24-2011, 03:53 PM
I have a question about painting my wheels. I am thinking about painting them black, I tried searching how to do it but nothing came up. Do I sand them, spray them, and then polish them with paint or wheel polish? I looked on youtube, but all I could find was how to spray paint chrome wheels, and mine are not chrome..lol.

94 olds vert
10-24-2011, 03:57 PM
Well, you could use some aircraft stripper to remove the paint. I would tape off the lip since you want to leave that polished. If the lip has corosion on it. You could wet sand it and then polish it. I've done and it takes forever. But after enough percerverance you can get them to look great them.

You could sand the mesh in the wheels. Might take a while but would give the best chance for the paint to stick. I'd use wheel paint. And tape off what you don't want black and just paint it.

If you want a glossy finish. Put a couple coats of clear on and wet sand it. Then polish and wax the paint.

Or!!! Have them powdercoated. That will give you the best results, but also costs a lot more money.

Fraschy
10-24-2011, 04:06 PM
Well, you could use some aircraft stripper to remove the paint. I would tape off the lip since you want to leave that polished. If the lip has corosion on it. You could wet sand it and then polish it. I've done and it takes forever. But after enough percerverance you can get them to look great them.

You could sand the mesh in the wheels. Might take a while but would give the best chance for the paint to stick. I'd use wheel paint. And tape off what you don't want black and just paint it.

If you want a glossy finish. Put a couple coats of clear on and wet sand it. Then polish and wax the paint.


Wow, awesome fast reply! I think this is what I will do. I sanded them before and polished them, when I bought the car they were pretty filthy. It took a few days, but I enjoy the work and it will be worth it. :)

94 olds vert
10-24-2011, 04:12 PM
Few days? I did mine in a few hours.

I want to paint my X-laces too. Not sure if I want to white or black. I'm leaning towards white since my GP is white. I'll probably just sand and paint them up.

Also to remove any wax or grease that has accumulated on your rims overtime. Use some dishsoap to wash them before and after to sand them. Or better yet mix some in with your water when you wet sand.

A good degreaser works well, but that requires a trip to the store and they are a couple bucks a bottle. I like to do things on the cheap side, but still get good results.

Here are one of the lips on my rims I did.
Before
http://i484.photobucket.com/albums/rr204/local456/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_0084.jpg
After
http://i484.photobucket.com/albums/rr204/local456/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_5654.jpg

tornado_735
10-24-2011, 04:15 PM
IMHO, those wheels in that color look totally bad ass on a black car. I'd keep then just as they are, short of removing the corrosion. :thumbsup:

mra32
10-24-2011, 05:11 PM
A few days is necessary to get it polished. Nate, not a diss, but it shows you only spent a few hours on it. They look good, but they aint polished. You can clean it up with sanding in a few hours, but you can make it much more impressive. Make sure you do it with good light so you can see when you got the scratches from the previous sanding step out. Start with 320 and get the machining marks down, go to 400, 600, 1000, 1500, 2000. Polish before painting. Mothers, a clean rag and rapid motion works pretty well.

Here is the last set of wheels I did using that process before i painted them:

http://i318.photobucket.com/albums/mm432/dieslowlymf/car/SAM_1359.jpg

For those two it took me somewhere around a week after work for a few hours every day and I used a glassbeader to get rid of all the clear

94 olds vert
10-24-2011, 05:28 PM
I wasn't going for perfect, but just to remove built up corrosion. Shoot those look Perfect!

Fraschy
10-25-2011, 02:38 PM
To me they both look great! It took me a few days because this is what they looked like:

http://i1120.photobucket.com/albums/l483/fraschy/DSCN2222.jpg

And that was a good one..lol.

94 olds vert
10-25-2011, 03:06 PM
Yikes those do look pretty bad. Any after pictures?

Fraschy
10-25-2011, 04:02 PM
This was the wheel after working on it some more after work:

http://i1120.photobucket.com/albums/l483/fraschy/DSCN2237.jpg

You can see in most of the pictures how shiny they look now. They could use some more cleaning up and polishing though. Perhaps I will do that and leave them natural. ;)


Oh, yeah. I killed my car. I left the radio on over night .. got distracted, went inside the house, never came back out till I had to go to work at 4:30 pm yesterday, oops! Me and my friend tried jump starting it today, but it still wouldn't turn over at all. Hope I just need a new battery!

Psych0matt
10-25-2011, 04:28 PM
let it charge for a while until its full, then it should be fine (unless its a pretty old battery)

94 olds vert
10-25-2011, 04:31 PM
Those rims came out nice! X2 what Matt said. What's the date on the battery?

AWeb80
10-26-2011, 12:30 AM
I'd get a new battery....otherwise that alt is gonna be working to charge it...possibly over heating the alt and then you have that fun job to do...

Psych0matt
10-26-2011, 12:36 AM
I'd get a new battery....otherwise that alt is gonna be working to charge it...possibly over heating the alt and then you have that fun job to do...

I don't think getting a new battery every time you run it down is a good idea. When I said let it charge for a while, my thought was with an actual charger, because you're right, it'll stress the alt unnecessarily. If it's an older battery, I'd do it just to do it, but if it's relatively newer (say within 2 or 3 years), I'd put it on a charger, and then see what voltage it's pulling before starting it up.

Fraschy
10-26-2011, 02:20 PM
I'm not sure of the date..but my friend brought his battery charger over, charged it, and we took my car for a drive last night and it runs great. Except now the light for the volume control on my steering wheel burnt out.

94 olds vert
10-26-2011, 08:15 PM
If you take the buttons off there is a small bulb inside. Its probably burnt out. Take it up to the local auto store and get a new one.

Fraschy
11-15-2011, 02:28 PM
My poor poor car...I go to start it for work yesterday, and all I hear is click-click-click real fast. It won't start, the only sound it makes is the clicking..it sounds like a futuristic laser gun, lol. My lights and radio work..the battery seems fine. It is also leaking a wee bit of anti-freeze..which is making me worry.

I called and it's getting towed and taken to a shop..but they won't look at it until tomorrow. Anyone have any input? Thanks!

mra32
11-15-2011, 02:31 PM
That just sounds like not enough amperage to turn over. Your battery is probably toast. The clicking is your starter solenoid going off over and over. You can pay for a tow a shop to replace the battery, but its really simple to do yourself. Where is your leak?

Fraschy
11-15-2011, 04:21 PM
Oh..I don't know exactly, we didn't see the droplets until after pulled it out of garage. The leaking anti-freeze is what worried me. If the battery was fried, would my lights, dash, radio, and locks still work?

AWeb80
11-15-2011, 04:41 PM
yes, everything can still work, just not enough oomph to turn turn the starter over.

mra32
11-15-2011, 04:45 PM
Yes. There could also be a power draw on your battery (one time my hood light got out of place and so it was on due to it dangling and the mercury switch being activated). Your battery doesnt need nearly as much power to turn on lights or a radio as it does to turn your engine over. Cold weather makes it difficult to start cars too. It could be the viscous oil or it could be the battery not being able to use all its power, not sure.

Why dont you figure out where the leak is and the status of your coolant system before you worry yourself.

Fraschy
11-15-2011, 10:52 PM
Thanks guys!! I think it is time for a new battery. I have to wait until next morning to figure out what exactly is wrong, I am HOPING that is all it is. But it would blow if I wasted $65 for towing it for nothing..lol.

Well my car already has been towed away, it was coming from the centerish of the engine..maybe a bit close to the passengers side. Was very little drips, so it was hard to tell exactly where it was coming from.

Fraschy
12-30-2011, 02:03 AM
Coming home from work at 11pm, about two weeks ago, I turn onto the highway and get up to speed. I didn't even get up to speed before CLUNK..lost all gears. She has been shifting hard for awhile now and the time finally came. I bawled.

So after two weeks of looking around for a newer Grand Prixs, and realizing that everyone wants at least twice as what these cars are worth, I think buying a tranny for around $300 and having someone I know help put it in for cheap is my best option. It doesn't help that every time I see a car like mine, I point it out and almost cry. It's been so sad, I just don't feel ready to give up on her. Sure it's probably stupid to put any money into it, but the car is priceless to me.

She's still got that o-ring oil pump drive leak. I was going to use JB weld, but a few people on here told me just to use RTV sealant, so im confused now. I'm just not sure what all gaskets I need besides, since you have to take apart the engine to get to it. And of course the timing belt needs to be replaced, its pretty chewed up. For about $500 and I can have her back to new..ish! :)

GOT2B GM
12-30-2011, 10:30 AM
Alright, when you do your timing belt, you will have to remove your upper intake plenum and cam carrier covers to access the camshafts.

Its only an additional 15 - 30 mins of work to remove the lower intake manifold from there. (purchase new lower intake gaskets and thermostat, and install up reassembly)

Once your lower intake manifold is removed, you will have the distributor plug in plain sight. Remove the bolt and keeper that holds the distributor plug/shaft into the block. You will notice that that there is a tab on the rear head that interferes with the distributor plug if you try and pull it up.

Using a die grinder with a burr bit, grind down the raised lip on the top of the distributor plug down almost flush with flat portion of the plug. Do this about 1/4 to 1/3 around the circumference of the raised lip. Remember to properly cover and shield any open passages into the engine as to not get metal chips into the oil / coolant / combustion chamber.

Now rotate the ground down portion of the plug so it is positioned underneath the tab on the head. Pull up on the plug using pliers so that the tab on the head fits inside your newly ground out section of the plug.

Take a new distributor gasket for a 350, and make one cut through it, so you can open it up and "wrap it" around the shaft.

Lightly coat the entire gasket, top and bottom , with RTV. Carefully stretch and flex the gasket under the plug , around the shaft.

Add a little extra spot of RTV where the cut meets up after getting the gasket around the shaft.

Push the shaft / plug back down inside the block and reinstall and tighten the keeper and the bolt.

95cutlass
12-30-2011, 10:50 AM
I'm glad that you are keeping it and fixing the grand prix up.. My cutlass was a stupid waste of money; but now after having so much into it why not continue lol.

Addicted To Boost
12-30-2011, 11:02 AM
You don't have to disassemble it that far to do a timing belt.
http://youtu.be/d3fzI_ODZFI

GOT2B GM
12-30-2011, 11:13 AM
OK. To do a timing belt CORRECTLY.

Fraschy
12-30-2011, 02:01 PM
Thanks GOT. I am not exactly familiar with what parts are what, I don't know as much about engines as I'd like to..but I have been researching this stuff for awhile, reading up all different posts and ways to do this. Both the O-ring and timing belt.

Also, the leak is pretty darn bad, and for the past month it's been worse. It's got to the point where no oil is on the dip stick. I heard that it might be more than the o-ring causing the leak? The whole bottom of the engine underneath the car is soaked in oil. I think I might just replace the head gaskets and intake gaskets.

It's quite a bit of money, but cheaper than buying a new car. I don't have enough to buy a decent car anyways right now. I think throwing a couple hundred in her and making her last another year is the best idea, while saving up. Plus it's cool being able to learn all this stuff about engines!

Fraschy
01-03-2012, 01:35 PM
I am super excited! Tomorrow I am going to pick up a tranny for about $400. Then this weekend a family friend is going to help put it in. While my car is at his garage, he said I can change the timing belt and gaskets, and he is going to help guide me through it.

I think I want to do it Phoenix's way, where he takes the head out, so it's easier and I can change the headgasket right away too.

Are these the only gaskets I need?
O-ring
Head gasket
Upper and lower intake gaskets?


I am trying to get a list of supplies. I will need a new thermostat for sure?

Addicted To Boost
01-03-2012, 01:39 PM
Add valve cover gaskets to the list as well.

GOT2B GM
01-03-2012, 02:27 PM
Honestly you are better off buying a gasket kit.

FEL-PRO perma-dry Part # HS9113PT1, comes with all the gaskets from the block up.

You will also need new headbolts as they are torque to yield (one time use only)

You'll need 2 boxes of FEL-PRO Part # ES72177.

For the timing belt, order a kit that includes the 3 idlers.

DAYCO Part # 95192K1

All the above parts numbers can be looked up on rockauto.com

For the distributer o-ring , go to your GM dealer and ask for the brown silicone distributer o-ring for your car, as well as a distributer gasket for a 350.

Also pick up a new thermostat and 02 sensor as they are both easy to change when things are torn down that far. Not 100% necessary but they are really convenient to change at that time.

I just did headhaskets / timing on my 1995 Cutlass convertible back in the fall so this is all pretty fresh in my memory.

http://www.w-body.com/showthread.php/52074-Project-Triple-White-Delight?p=1043306&viewfull=1#post1043306

Fraschy
01-03-2012, 03:10 PM
Dang it! So its going to be another $500+ just to change the gaskets and timing belt. Arggggg. This is just getting stressfull again. Are the idlers neccesary?

Fraschy
01-03-2012, 03:11 PM
If I knew it was going to be this expensive I could of just dropped an l67 in her.

xtremerevolution
01-03-2012, 03:15 PM
If I knew it was going to be this expensive I could of just dropped an l67 in her.

Not quite as cheap and simple as you think.

GOT2B GM
01-03-2012, 03:20 PM
Or you can skip pulling the heads, fix the o-ring leak the die grinder way, buy and install intake gaskets and a timing belt and go on your merry way.

Idlers aren't neccessary but its good practice to replace them. Another one of those "easy to change while its apart items"

Hate to put a new timing belt on it and then have an idler shit the bed and take it out.

Fraschy
01-03-2012, 04:10 PM
Ohh Got, thanks for all your help! I really appreciate it. Sounds like your way is the best way. ;)

GOT2B GM
01-03-2012, 04:21 PM
I'm not saying its the "best" way, but if you can get away without pulling the heads, and the budget is a big concern, it sounds like the way to go.

I fixed the distributer o-ring on my black vert that way and it worked perfectly.

Fraschy
01-03-2012, 04:27 PM
I am on rockauto.com and it says there is no matches for those numbers. Though I am under the Belt Drive section for my engine, and not sure what the exact idlers are to buy. I am pretty sure buying them seperately is cheaper than paying almost $300 for the kit from autozone.

GOT2B GM
01-03-2012, 04:34 PM
Look under Engine > Timing Belt Component Kit

Fraschy
01-03-2012, 11:46 PM
Rock Auto kicks ass. The Cylinder head gasket kit is only about $116 and the timing belt kit is $117. That's cheap enough for me!

AL
01-04-2012, 02:07 AM
search google for rockauto discount code and get an additional 5% off, may cover shipping costs for you

Fraschy
01-11-2012, 03:20 PM
Well I tried the discount thing, but there was never a place to enter the code in to get a discount.

Last Saturday we ripped the engine out. Took us a total of 5 hours! I had a great time, and next Saturday I am going to start taking apart the engine! Sorry all I have are cell phone pictures for now, forgot to bring my camera.

http://i1120.photobucket.com/albums/l483/fraschy/carpicture.jpg

http://i1120.photobucket.com/albums/l483/fraschy/securedownload.jpg

http://i1120.photobucket.com/albums/l483/fraschy/carpic4.jpg

http://i1120.photobucket.com/albums/l483/fraschy/carpic3.jpg

Tada! :)

94 olds vert
01-11-2012, 03:22 PM
Nice progress.

Fraschy
01-11-2012, 03:24 PM
OH I forgot to add!!!! As we were taking the engine out, we realized someone had already sealed up the oil pump drive with RTV...that was interesting to see. So it was a good thing I went with the head gasket set, because BOTH of them were leaking really bad. I am suprised my engine was still running strong the way it was with those leaks.

94 olds vert
01-11-2012, 03:29 PM
Those oil pump drives like to spew out oil everywhere.

Fraschy
01-11-2012, 03:31 PM
I am so excited for this!! I cleaned the engine bay out yesterday, since oil was covering just about everything. I also cant wait to see how much better she runs once she is all cleaned up!

94 olds vert
01-11-2012, 03:40 PM
Want to do mine next? LOL

AL
01-12-2012, 01:40 AM
You enter the discount code where it says "how did you hear about us"

Fraschy
01-14-2012, 09:28 PM
Got a question about the timing chain inside. Tore apart the engine today, and noticed a little bit of free movement, on the thing where the rag is covering, in the pic. Is that normal, or should we tear apart the engine even more and fix that too?http://i1120.photobucket.com/albums/l483/fraschy/Picture002.jpg

jman093
01-14-2012, 09:52 PM
Got a question about the timing chain inside. Tore apart the engine today, and noticed a little bit of free movement, on the thing where the rag is covering, in the pic. Is that normal, or should we tear apart the engine even more and fix that too?

There really shouldn't be any play. Spec for crankshaft end play is .002" to .008". I have the engine of out my GTP as well and I can't feel any play at all.

Fraschy
01-14-2012, 09:58 PM
Uh oh, so it looks like I will be needing a new timing chain huh?

jman093
01-14-2012, 10:26 PM
Uh oh, so it looks like I will be needing a new timing chain huh?

Oh I thought you were talking about play pulling the damper in and out. Yeah it'll probably have a little play rotating it back and forth.

Fraschy
01-15-2012, 06:33 PM
Oh, I just meant rotating it, you can push it about half inch.

jman093
01-15-2012, 07:18 PM
I was tinkering around with my engine today and checked. It didn't have any play rotating it either. If I was you I'd just buy a chain. You're almost there and $30 is worth the peace-of-mind.

Fraschy
01-15-2012, 08:16 PM
Kk, looks like I will buy one. Do I also need the timing chain tensioner?

Fraschy
01-15-2012, 08:19 PM
Oh, got these codes of Rockauto. I don't know which oil pan gasket to get. I was thinking the Fel-Pro one, but there is another with the exact picture for $5 cheaper.
16526 - oil pan gasket
OS34501R - oil pan FEL PRO gasket

And is C382 the proper timing chain? Sorry for these silly questions, I just would hate to buy the wrong thing.

Fraschy
01-18-2012, 02:28 PM
No one here knows the right timing chain to buy? Any help would be appreciated!

GOT2B GM
01-18-2012, 03:06 PM
I'm not sure what timing chain to buy (never had to do one), but I do have a brand new in the box GM timing chain tensioner in my garage if you're looking for one.

Sent from my BlackBerry 9900 using Tapatalk

jman093
01-18-2012, 08:42 PM
Yeah that should be the right chain. The tensioner wouldn't be a bad idea if only due to the fact that it's a part of the guides.

Fraschy
01-18-2012, 11:06 PM
I'm not sure what timing chain to buy (never had to do one), but I do have a brand new in the box GM timing chain tensioner in my garage if you're looking for one.


How much would you charge with shipping for it? I also don't have a paypall account, if that matters.

GOT2B GM
01-20-2012, 02:35 PM
$40 including shipping from Canada.

You can either sign up for paypal or snail mail me $40, pm me if interested.

Fraschy
01-23-2012, 04:37 PM
I just bought a complete timing chain set off Rock Auto for about $100. But I ran into a problem. The transmission out of the 93 has a totaly different mounting bracket, and the wiring inside is even different.

This is my old one:
http://i1120.photobucket.com/albums/l483/fraschy/DSCN2542.jpg


This one is the one from the Lumina:
http://i1120.photobucket.com/albums/l483/fraschy/DSCN2541.jpg




http://i1120.photobucket.com/albums/l483/fraschy/DSCN2543-1.jpg

AL
01-23-2012, 07:32 PM
93 is a one year only trans... They changed some stuff in 94 and in 92, it wasnt an electronically shifted transmission... You may still be able to use it, Ill look at some wiring diagrams to see, I am hoping you can

AL
01-23-2012, 07:48 PM
After looking at the wiring, even though the internal wiring is different, it shows that the wiring to the trans from the engine harness is the same and all the internal wires go to the same place, they are just in slightly different locations... I can post more info if you need it

Fraschy
01-24-2012, 01:10 PM
More info would be great! My computer will recognize this transmission and it will work alright then? But I still have an issue with the transmission mount fitting in my car. Has anyone here done this before? Because the guy who is helping me out, who rebuilds trannys, said it isn't going to work probably.

I called the junkyard where I got it from, and tried asking for more info, but I couldn't believe the way he was talking to a lady! He ended up calling me a bitch and hanging up on me, only to call me later and say he has a tranny from a 95 that I could trade back the 93 for..but what he isn't understanding is the mounting bracket is still a problem. I tried explaining my situation, but everytime he would rudely interrupt me and accuse me of being wrong and that I am a know-it-all, even though he wouldn't let me explain what I was talking about fully. I guess he didn't like the thought of a girl trying to tell him he's wrong.

GOT2B GM
01-24-2012, 03:48 PM
Have the guy who is helping you with the transmission go over to the yard and straighten them out

AWeb80
01-26-2012, 10:12 PM
If you are going through that much trouble, take a few days and ~$300 and rebuild it. I rebuilt mine. wasn't hard if you take your time and follow the ATSG book you can buy off of ebay for ~$20

Fraschy
01-27-2012, 01:40 AM
Well, thing is I really know nothing about transmissions, so I won't even mess with rebuilding it. And it's already been over a month working on the engine. Tomorrow me and my stepdad are trading the 93 tranny for a 95. I may just have the guy who is helping me out rebuild my old one, incase the newer one takes a shit too. Time is another thing because this is my DD. What sucks is I am going to be spending about $100 in just gas with these two trips from the damn transmissions.

AWeb80
01-27-2012, 02:09 AM
I knew nothing about transmissions either....I just bought the manual and went to work.

Fraschy
01-28-2012, 03:08 AM
Here are the pictures of the rebuild so far..since I had yet to post them here. ;)

http://i1120.photobucket.com/albums/l483/fraschy/Picture001.jpg

http://i1120.photobucket.com/albums/l483/fraschy/Picture005.jpg

http://i1120.photobucket.com/albums/l483/fraschy/Picture003.jpg

http://i1120.photobucket.com/albums/l483/fraschy/DSCN2538.jpg

http://i1120.photobucket.com/albums/l483/fraschy/DSCN2537.jpg

http://i1120.photobucket.com/albums/l483/fraschy/DSCN2540.jpg

AWeb80
01-28-2012, 03:16 AM
your number 1 piston is dirty

AL
01-28-2012, 11:04 AM
Holy crap your not kidding

xtremerevolution
01-28-2012, 11:18 AM
Wow. Late to the party here, but why wasn't that piston firing?

Fraschy
01-28-2012, 10:35 PM
I'm not sure what you are talking about with the piston not firing..head gaskets and timing chain and belt is what mainly needed to be replaced. And yes the whole engine was filthy from the oil and anti-freeze leaking all over.

AL
01-28-2012, 10:44 PM
Im just trying to figure out why your number one piston looks so much dirtier than the rest

Fraschy
01-29-2012, 02:11 PM
They were all pretty cruddy from the oil, since I did have a head gasket leak. That crap just wipes right off pretty much. We cleaned the whole engine block off.

Fraschy
01-29-2012, 02:12 PM
You can see in one of the pictures the other piston is dirty too.

Fraschy
02-07-2012, 04:18 PM
Does anyone happen to know the exact height and width of the third break light on the spoiler like the one I have? I would measure it myself, but my car is at the shop.

AL
02-07-2012, 08:32 PM
Ill measure mine tomorrow for you

Fraschy
02-07-2012, 10:45 PM
Okay great thanks! I don't want to give out too much information, but I am sure most of you can already guess what my plan is. :P

AL
02-10-2012, 09:18 PM
Okay great thanks! I don't want to give out too much information, but I am sure most of you can already guess what my plan is. :P

8 inches by 2 1/4 inches for the below picture
http://i1239.photobucket.com/albums/ff510/bigalwalker/95%20Grand%20Prix%20SE/2012-02-09141605.jpg

The red lens measures 5 1/2 by 1 inch, the entire housing is 1 1/2 inches tall... Hope this helps you
http://i1239.photobucket.com/albums/ff510/bigalwalker/95%20Grand%20Prix%20SE/2012-02-09114203.jpg

Fraschy
02-10-2012, 10:43 PM
WOW you rock!! This helps a load! :)

AL
02-11-2012, 01:47 AM
Not a problem, I was working on the spoiler anyways, glad I could help

AWeb80
02-11-2012, 02:09 AM
are you doing this?? http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v639/AWeb/Adams%20car%20and%20Bens%20Truck/101_1159.jpg

Fraschy
02-13-2012, 01:00 PM
Maybe, maybe not...:P

Fraschy
02-17-2012, 11:45 PM
I finished my car last weekend! Got the engine back together and back in the car..and it runs great! :)

I forgot to take pictures of the engine all back together, didn't even cross my mind at that point. Pretty ticked at myself about it, all I got are these pictures. I posted them on gpf.net, but figured come over here and show you guys here.

Heads on:
http://i1120.photobucket.com/albums/l483/fraschy/02050295124100.jpg

Cams on:
http://i1120.photobucket.com/albums/l483/fraschy/02050295143300.jpg

GOT2B GM
02-18-2012, 12:06 AM
Nice work Whitney!

Night Fury
02-18-2012, 12:14 AM
Dear lawd you had that thing TORN THE HELL DOWN!

AWeb80
02-18-2012, 12:52 AM
Awesome work!

AL
02-18-2012, 01:07 AM
That is incredible... I envy the amount of commitment you put into making this all happen... After the first drive, it makes everything you did so worth it! Also, what did you end up doing about the transmission? How did the new one do for you?

Fraschy
02-18-2012, 01:19 AM
Thanks guys!! I am pretty happy, I loved this car so much, it was too hard to let it go. Plus rebuilding it was an AWESOME experience, and it probably won't be my last. :)

My stepdad drove me down to the junkyard to trade the 93 tranny with a 95 tranny they had. The tranny runs great, I hardly even feel it shift! Sometimes I can only tell it has from the rpms going down. When we arrived at the junkyard the guy was a total dick, hardly said a word..he knew he was wrong. He tried taking off with my old tranny's cover and tranny mount, until my stepdad stopped him. It was a bit awkward, but I am glad I don't have to deal with that shit-hole of a place anymore!

ctracer
02-18-2012, 09:37 AM
WOW. damn junkyard-ians...lol. glad the tranny is working out for you. how many miles are on the 95?

Fraschy
02-18-2012, 12:13 PM
You know what, I don't even know. I was never told, I tried asking him on the phone, but he changed the subject on me after he said he has to look it up..I didn't realize he got away with that till after we got off the phone.

Fraschy
02-18-2012, 08:02 PM
I'm so sad. And I am not sure what happened. But when I got into my car, shut the sun roof I heard.....CRACK!..................CRACK!, and now my sunroof won't move. I think it fell out of line, not sure if it's broke for good or it was just because of the cold. Anyone experience this?

AWeb80
02-18-2012, 10:04 PM
My Auroras did this.....I just said screw it.